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Discuss SNCO Enablers... in Just TA on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by HectortheInspector And trying to get JNCO's course qualified to tick all the right boxes in just the right order? I found trade & driving A nightmare, trade ran some times once every ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HectortheInspector View Post
    And trying to get JNCO's course qualified to tick all the right boxes in just the right order?
    I found trade & driving A nightmare, trade ran some times once every two years and driving was rocking horse crap. Juniors twigged it was easier to get Matt instructor courses, which was useful to unit and helped the NCOs get noticed..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boumer View Post
    Now I have to be slightly careful saying this (in particular as I have not done a tour yet due to work/family reasons), but I know of at least two in my neck of the woods who have multiple tours but are still utter feckwits (both in general character and demeanour, and apprently in military and trade skills).
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    Quote Originally Posted by polar View Post
    You fablon the "pacific" bit or issue in CD format and only issue relevant stuff.

    The other tactic is to arrange for the O Grp to be miles away... i.e. issue a short warning order i.e. Move 200+ miles down A1 to a 34 Sigs TA Centre log onto to DII there and await movement order, Ops order, CEI - ur on freq 1 and your supporting XYZ Bde/Hosp at RAF ABC.
    This prevents the NRPS and enablers G1/G4 from building up admin bullshit to pacific proportions and gives the subbies a few hours to write the Movement/Op Orders (to tick boxes for 2 Sig Bde). [This is how 38 Sigs survived the last cuts]

    I think you need to stay out of the sun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullshot! View Post
    The implication of the phrase 'SNCO enabler' is that you have a SNCO who holds useful qualifications but does not have the wider professional / leadership / management capability to fulfill the job description of the PID he/she is filling.
    Really?

    When someone says 'enabler' to me, it normally means an experienced and competant bloke, who is too old/injured to be a thruster. His career is going no where, but his years of service means he has the knowledge and experience to 'enable' the unit to perform. His unflinching executin of menial tasks that don't cover him in glory, but allow the unit to train adds more value than the cnut who can run an 8min PFT ever will, but oddly whilst the 8minuter is lauded for their ability to run (probably a genetic gift) the plodding enabler is often overlooked.

    The enabler is often the guy that the SSM and other SNCO/instuctorss goes to, to ask advice. This advice, like a confessional, is never advertised. And he is likely to know where all the buckshees are hid, who to ask for what and have a network of cronies (fellow enablers) who can assist in locating itms or building his colloqeual knowledge.

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    Well I see him as a fat, speccy, downy sat in a minibus.

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    Oh good. We're onto semantics.

    What is an enabler?

    A backstage organiser.

    Tours? BFT time? Does it matter as long as the props are all in place?

    I don't get it. If they fill up PIDs then put them in obscure HQ ones or over bare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaz View Post
    Well I see him as a fat, speccy, downy sat in a minibus.
    Well you are facinated so by mirrors and window reflections...

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    CF - no issue with that, I know one or two SNCOs who fall into your description. But I wouldn't call them enablers, grafters maybe. Time served, downgraded, probably not promotable, respected for their professional knowledge and contribution. There aren't many of these and the fact that they are respected across their Bn means the Bn can find appropriate PIDs for them to occupy. But there are others who aren't that good; they have a skill or qual in short supply and for that reason only they are tolerated. The very fact that they are called 'enablers' means that no one can bring themselves to call them pl / tp sgt or whatever, most people seem to think that this type of SNCO outnumbers the former.
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    Aaah. PFA time....

    Well, there is a mandated procedure to be followed with PFA failure, so there is no excuse for it not to be followed....

    3 outcomes:

    Pass PFA, permanantly medically downgraded, discharge.

    Moral courage test for OCs....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullshot! View Post
    Aaah. PFA time....

    Well, there is a mandated procedure to be followed with PFA failure, so there is no excuse for it not to be followed....

    3 outcomes:

    Pass PFA, permanantly medically downgraded, discharge.

    Moral courage test for OCs....
    Moral courage indeed...

    " Well, Brigadier, my unit has implemented the mandated PFA policy. We've cleared out about 15% failures, and sacked them. So far, that means we now have half the number we used to have to run the ranges, no Master Driver, the last bloke with grandfather rights to drive some of the coaches has gone, and the last surviving CBRN instructor, Sgt Racing Snake Smith, set a new unit PFA record. Pity his ticket expired two years ago. So, the number of people I can get MATTS qualified this year, and issued with Certificates of Proficiency? Er... Not so many as last year.... By lots."

    Moral courage indeed. To deliberately reduce your units ability to deliver training, or decide to produce trained soldiers. Which gets the CO his next step?
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