- 21-05-2012, 20:32 #11
- Join Date
- Mar 2005
- 21-05-2012, 20:48 #12
"It is late" ..... it's over a YEAR late, hardly an admin oversight. How can the 1RO write a realistic report now? Why not put the system under pressure? I would be reminding the 1RO of all my brilliant achievements and challenge any negatives. As presented, the 1RO hardly seems organised, so I would leverage that and promote insecurity to ensure a better outcome.
As presented - the OP has an SJAR, pivotal for promotion and FTRS rank, that is a year overdue. He /she (appears) to have chased the CoC and not had any material outcome. I can't understand why any sub unit comd would fail to act - it is a simple email "write the report, now", Simple.
How do you think an investigating SO2 at Bde HQ is going to view the players here, based on what the OP has presented?
To me this is a fine example ( as presented) of how to get it really wrong and the sort of situation that MS detests. Service Complaints on MS matters take up a huge amount of time at 1* level.
- 21-05-2012, 21:17 #13
Never that simple. I had requests for SJARs hitting my workflow 18 months after handing over. The fact that these came about because incompetent staff had failed to upload the correctly (and timely) completed NSARs onto JPA doesn't help the fact that a number of soldiers are listed as "no SJAR" and Glasgow have quite correctly kicked up a stink. Is the OP 100% certain that the original was never drafted and passed on?
OP - If your OC is giving you a stern ignoring, a quick word through the CofC to the Adjt will soon get the ball rolling. Assuming there is any form of competence in your unit at all you would have been the subject of a grading board for the reporting period which will dictate your place in the unit position list. The training you have done will be on record and a quick ask around will allow your OC to give an honest report.
- 21-05-2012, 21:22 #14If your soldiers aren't coming off most weekends telling those who weren't there "shit mate, you dipped out" then time to cull your training team with prejudice.
- 21-05-2012, 21:25 #15If your soldiers aren't coming off most weekends telling those who weren't there "shit mate, you dipped out" then time to cull your training team with prejudice.
- 21-05-2012, 21:27 #16
- 21-05-2012, 21:30 #17
m-s-rIf your soldiers aren't coming off most weekends telling those who weren't there "shit mate, you dipped out" then time to cull your training team with prejudice.
- 21-05-2012, 21:35 #18
I read it (as presented) that the OC is still in post , but has not materially responded and that is the bit I don't understand.
Do PIDs have anything to do with it - not being a JPA Ninja myself - but could someone be holding down the former 1ROs PID and it has been pushed to their workflow now? JPA is name based but might the HR Admin done something to change the workflow stream i.e. new Offr in the 1ROs slot, old workflows lost?
Edit - so I am reading this as - 1RO is Tp Comd/Ldr/ Pl Comd and moved on. OC is in post throughout.
Also - can't the HR Admins see theese sorts of queues in JPA? If my hazy memory serves me correctly they can - so again, is that not a simple query on behalf of this soldier?
Last edited by Hootch; 21-05-2012 at 21:45.
- 21-05-2012, 21:48 #19
The JPA admin staff can see them and move them if required. If it is held in the workflow of someone who has left (TA or unit) they have the option to move it to a new 1RO.
Similarly, they can push it past the "subject accepts" bit if the soldier is failing to do so.
- 22-05-2012, 11:27 #20
Your OC may well have "signed it off" - more correctly, he should have completed the 2RO comments and passed it on to the next on the JPA workflow. Of course, that assumes he was working on JPA and not on a word based NSAR. If he has completed it on an NSAR, has it been passed onto the clerks to upload? has anyone checked whether the clerks have done so?
Raise it with the PSAO if only to add him into the chain of people who are not doing what they are supposed to be doing. Give him a few days to find the SJAR. If it has been done on JPA it is a very simple process. If it has been done on NSAR it will be down to tracking emails. The next step is to escalate it to the Adjt.
Last edited by The_Duke; 11-06-2012 at 19:54.