ARmy Rumour SErvice

Out the school in the daily mail for not being patriotic.
Should be worth a page on the subject!

Dr Evil,

"If he will do it unpaid, where is the financial loss to the school? "

Agency staff presumably cost more per hour than full time staff. That is usually the way such things work.
there is then the "cost" of the disruption to the childrens education.

If it helps, I am with you on one of the first things you said which was along the lines of - if TA service is not compatible with teaching then the schools should just come out and say it. I agree. And I think it is incompatible.

Originally Posted by Blokeonabike

Further, do you know what the unemployment rate is for ex-Army officers. Virtually nil.

Interesting, that. I suspect not all of them are employed at quite the level or salary that ante room discussion might make one believe. As it happens the two former Regulars I speak to most are both unemployed so that's 100%.

I'd also challenge your assertion that they make the average covvy look like an unemployed/unemployable layabout. I banter a lot about the NHS & its senior management (this is where my main experience has been in the last few years as an interim finance specialist) but they do know inside out the minutiae of healthcare legislation and policy and try and make things work in a notoriously litigious environment with a workforce prone to highly vocal whinging.

The place for the gifted amateur in modern civilian life has just about gone. I have been lucky enough to secure a school bursar's post (something which a kindly old duffer of a passed over Major or Colonel would have filled in the past) but this took serious application to obtaining and improving business knowledge and skills. It's no longer good enough to look good in tweed and think being Mess Treasurer or supervising the Junior Ranks Club is sufficient knowledge of the world of business and finance!

CP, I agree. Simply being a splendid chap is not sufficient to replace years of experience in a specific field of industry or commerce. Officers may not earn as much in civdiv as they expected (Qualified Teacher salary starts at a little over £ 20 grand) but they will all find a job if they try.

But it is not hard for a 20 years served Major to inspire primary school children better than a 23 year old lefty-liberal (either female or very camp) who left school only to become a teacher and is scared of his own shadow and has never even seen the real world. I know the Army is a special organisation and in peacetime it looks after its personnel and keeps a lot of real world admin shit off them but it doesnt get much more "real" than serving in Iraq or Afganistan and it is hard to find any war-dodgers in the current organisation.

TA is only a hobby similar to being a Scout or Brownie/Cub so I do not blame the school. What if a teacher wanted 2 weeks off to go fishing or another wanted 2 weeks off to go camping? Where does the headmaster draw the line? TA is a weekend/evening thing so why disrupt a whole school timetable?

Originally Posted by Dr_Evil

If he will do it unpaid, where is the financial loss to the school?

Cost of a supply teacher.

You also omit mention of the impact on the education of the affected students.

Originally Posted by AFA06

TA is only a hobby similar to being a Scout or Brownie/Cub so I do not blame the school. What if a teacher wanted 2 weeks off to go fishing or another wanted 2 weeks off to go camping? Where does the headmaster draw the line? TA is a weekend/evening thing so why disrupt a whole school timetable?

Oh, no.

Originally Posted by Dr_Evil

Polar, an ETS course won't quite give him what is planned to be covered on camp (given the latter's greater emphasis on FOB defence and running around).

As I mentioned earlier, why not get him to train with other units? I'm sure that the training you look to deliver will be available via other capbadges.

We had a Fullscrew from 3PWRR out with my gang last weekend, for example, as part of his H18 beat up.