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    Re: RAMC personnel in another capbadge unit

    Slightly off topic, but out of curiosity how are non-mobilised TA officers and soldiers reported on. In other words, for a soldier or officer who is doing X many drill nights, weekends and summer camps, etc but is not mobilised on operations or on an FTRS contract (or anything similar), does he or she get an OJAR or SJAR? If so how, as with less time in the saddle than their regular counterparts, TA officers must spend their entire time in uniform doing MS? It takes enough of my time up and I wear green full time.
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    Re: RAMC personnel in another capbadge unit

    Check the AMS MCM Div website - the documents have the correct reporting chain. RAMC require a Major to write on all ranks above LCpl as 1 RO. So notes from those that know you (better) to OC, CO as 2 RO. Comd Med or some other RAMC grown up as 3 RO.

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    Re: RAMC personnel in another capbadge unit

    Quote Originally Posted by brave-coward
    ...If so how...
    Before all the OCs dive in and tell you that it does take up all their spare time, etc., etc., for which they don't get paid...

    ...it's probably a bit easier in the TA than it is in the Regulars in that we have a relatively static workforce. While there are newcomers, early-leavers and the time-expired, most people tend to stay in the same sub-unit for a considerable period. Many of these find their niche and stay in it. Although "cut and paste" would be a flippant answer, in the main it's not far from the truth, minor edits here and there are often sufficent.

    The fastest turn-over is probably in the ranks of those who write the SJARs, so if a time-expired OC passes on his SJAR folder to the new incumbent... ...not only is time saved writing the next one, but there'll also be a consistency in the format that will allow better assessment of the progress of the subject.
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    Re: RAMC personnel in another capbadge unit

    Quote Originally Posted by brave-coward
    Slightly off topic, but out of curiosity how are non-mobilised TA officers and soldiers reported on. In other words, for a soldier or officer who is doing X many drill nights, weekends and summer camps, etc but is not mobilised on operations or on an FTRS contract (or anything similar), does he or she get an OJAR or SJAR? If so how, as with less time in the saddle than their regular counterparts, TA officers must spend their entire time in uniform doing MS? It takes enough of my time up and I wear green full time.
    Yes everyone should get an SJAR / OJAR, less for those who have very recently joined.

    Yes it does take up more time than it should, especially with our limited 'face time' with JPA.

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    Re: RAMC personnel in another capbadge unit

    Quote Originally Posted by Speckled_Jim
    Check the AMS MCM Div website - the documents have the correct reporting chain. RAMC require a Major to write on all ranks above LCpl as 1 RO. So notes from those that know you (better) to OC, CO as 2 RO. Comd Med or some other RAMC grown up as 3 RO.
    In a TA Artillery unit? I don't think so.
    I can see it now, in a decade ARRSE will be full of young thrusters who will be complaining about all the old farts who go on about HERRICK, lurk in the office, "enable" stuff and how it's got fuck all to do with what's going on now.

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    Re: RAMC personnel in another capbadge unit

    Quote Originally Posted by brave-coward
    Slightly off topic, but out of curiosity how are non-mobilised TA officers and soldiers reported on. In other words, for a soldier or officer who is doing X many drill nights, weekends and summer camps, etc but is not mobilised on operations or on an FTRS contract (or anything similar), does he or she get an OJAR or SJAR? If so how, as with less time in the saddle than their regular counterparts, TA officers must spend their entire time in uniform doing MS? It takes enough of my time up and I wear green full time.
    You only report on people with more than 27 days attendance in the reporting period which automatically removes your biffs and wasters. Other than that, it is pretty much as per regular MS requirements.

    I do mine on an NSAR format (in non-TA time) to get them into the 2 RO in time for him to add his piece (concurrent activity and all that), and then cut and paste onto JPA once the admins have loaded them all on.

    It is relatively time consuming, but not too onerous if you crack each rank range on their due date and avoid a backlog building up.

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