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Discuss DII / EGS at the Just TA forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; I think you'll find you already have two accounts, I know the reasoning behind why ...
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    Re: DII / EGS

    I think you'll find you already have two accounts, I know the reasoning behind why they gave everyone two accounts but in practice it just causes confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delberto
    I think you'll find you already have two accounts, I know the reasoning behind why they gave everyone two accounts but in practice it just causes confusion.
    Nope. " Occaisional" users do not have a role account, nor access to civvy internet via DII. "Standard" users have both a role based account and a personal account and restricted access to civvy internet sites. If you need access to civvy internet as a TA bod then its easier to do at home - and without all the blocked sites.....heaven forfend that anyone used their own wireless enabled laptop or Blackberry to conduct their TA business while sat in a TAC, all sorts of security implications......

    The question someone should be asking is why on earth the contractors were allowed to get away with big monthly charges for standard users internet access - and basic housekeeping like moving machines between taps. Sounds like MOD is paying twice the rate that you'd pay for reasonable broadband at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saladin
    Sounds like MOD is paying twice the rate that you'd pay for reasonable broadband at home.
    the expense is reflected by the security of the system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtyfilthymech
    Quote Originally Posted by saladin
    Sounds like MOD is paying twice the rate that you'd pay for reasonable broadband at home.
    the expense is reflected by the security of the system
    How? It's a proxy server FFS.

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    I can see it now, in a decade ARRSE will be full of young thrusters who will be complaining about all the old farts who go on about HERRICK, lurk in the office, "enable" stuff and how it's got fuck all to do with what's going on now.

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    Re: DII / EGS

    It's more the auditing, testing, re-testing and monitoring that tends to cost the money than the tech itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saladin
    If you need access to civvy internet as a TA bod then its easier to do at home - and without all the blocked sites.....heaven forfend that anyone used their own wireless enabled laptop or Blackberry to conduct their TA business while sat in a TAC, all sorts of security implications......
    That's my issue with the system. I have an office, a desk, and a DII machine, but I have to wait until I go home to email anyone who has a civvy email address (i.e. all of my troop!). To an occasional user, it is a glorified typewriter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatAmIDoing
    It's more the auditing, testing, re-testing and monitoring that tends to cost the money than the tech itself.

    Then that is a central cost, why is it borne by each user at £25 per month?
    I can see it now, in a decade ARRSE will be full of young thrusters who will be complaining about all the old farts who go on about HERRICK, lurk in the office, "enable" stuff and how it's got fuck all to do with what's going on now.

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    Re: DII / EGS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bushnut
    Quote Originally Posted by saladin
    If you need access to civvy internet as a TA bod then its easier to do at home - and without all the blocked sites.....heaven forfend that anyone used their own wireless enabled laptop or Blackberry to conduct their TA business while sat in a TAC, all sorts of security implications......
    That's my issue with the system. I have an office, a desk, and a DII machine, but I have to wait until I go home to email anyone who has a civvy email address (i.e. all of my troop!). To an occasional user, it is a glorified typewriter.
    Thank goodness for the PGP offer on armynet, or we would never get all the MS which JPA demands done
    I can see it now, in a decade ARRSE will be full of young thrusters who will be complaining about all the old farts who go on about HERRICK, lurk in the office, "enable" stuff and how it's got fuck all to do with what's going on now.

    One_of_the_strange

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    Quote Originally Posted by msr
    How? It's a proxy server FFS.

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    Ha, I was involved in the sale of the same proxy system as new technology, same name, slightly different department (in MOD) to a different government intranet.

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    Re: DII / EGS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bushnut
    Quote Originally Posted by saladin
    If you need access to civvy internet as a TA bod then its easier to do at home - and without all the blocked sites.....heaven forfend that anyone used their own wireless enabled laptop or Blackberry to conduct their TA business while sat in a TAC, all sorts of security implications......
    That's my issue with the system. I have an office, a desk, and a DII machine, but I have to wait until I go home to email anyone who has a civvy email address (i.e. all of my troop!). To an occasional user, it is a glorified typewriter.
    Good to see you have a DII terminal, as for me I have the office, a desk, and an IGS account, but no terminal !!!

    In answering your original question, yes TA can have an IGS account, but I had to justify why I needed one, and after that it was very much down to the bean counters to agree to fund it.

    Justification was fairly easy, something like, "if the civvy storeman needs an account then surely the boss needs one as well", a few red faces, some gnashing of teeth and hey presto result.
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