TA Signals

**Bravo_Bravo** · 19-03-2010, 11:45

So, Creature; to sum up; you don't really know about the Infantry.

**the_creature** · 19-03-2010, 11:55

[quote="Polar"]

Originally Posted by the_creature

In my perfect TA training world, RRU/TARU would be delivered by regional Brigade training teams, alongside DITS with an added ECDL module. Aimed at all recruits to Signals platoons/troops and potential JNCO's. It would be a simple addition and huge benefit to many ICS/CS/Sigs platoons/troops

. Good post Polar, I agree. However Although the teaching of more indepth VP is always a must, isn't the use of BATCO being phased out due to BOWMAN. Don't get me wrong I think BATCO is a brilliant system for unsecure Comms and should be taught to all ICP ops, but really BOWMAN makes unsecure the thing of the past with crypto. I know BOWMAN can be taught quite quickly and therfore some think not taught well enough, but It was designed to be that way a new system that any signals soldier can get used to. "in therory". I no it's not perfect mind you.

**the_creature** · 19-03-2010, 12:02

Originally Posted by Bravo_Bravo

So, Creature; to sum up; you don't really know about the Infantry.

. No I don't to be Honest I don't think I need to. All i know is how to shoot straight and run. I know there's more to it but I really don't get told anything anymore nor do I ask to many questions, mabey when I gain a rank if someone stupid enough wants to promote me.

**msr** · 19-03-2010, 12:11

Originally Posted by the_creature

Originally Posted by Bravo_Bravo

So, Creature; to sum up; you don't really know about the Infantry.

. No I don't to be Honest I don't think I need to. All i know is how to shoot straight and run. I know there's more to it but I really don't get told anything anymore nor do I ask to many questions, mabey when I gain a rank if someone stupid enough wants to promote me.

Based on the quality of your posts, that could be some time.

**PRC-349** · 19-03-2010, 14:43

[quote="the_creature"]

Originally Posted by polar

Originally Posted by the_creature

In my perfect TA training world, RRU/TARU would be delivered by regional Brigade training teams, alongside DITS with an added ECDL module. Aimed at all recruits to Signals platoons/troops and potential JNCO's. It would be a simple addition and huge benefit to many ICS/CS/Sigs platoons/troops

. Good post Polar, I agree. However Although the teaching of more indepth VP is always a must, isn't the use of BATCO being phased out due to BOWMAN. Don't get me wrong I think BATCO is a brilliant system for unsecure Comms and should be taught to all ICP ops, but really BOWMAN makes unsecure the thing of the past with crypto. I know BOWMAN can be taught quite quickly and therfore some think not taught well enough, but It was designed to be that way a new system that any signals soldier can get used to. "in therory". I no it's not perfect mind you.

No because if you loose a fill...what are you going to do..aside get a kicking?

**the_creature** · 19-03-2010, 16:10

I have terrible skill fade it's been along time since I tried to stay awake in a bowman lesson. But if you accidently delete your fill, there is a back up frequency for the bowman if this does happen and if my memory is correct, you don't have to use BATCO in theory, you just do your thing with correct VP and ask for another fill. But someone like polor could explain if I'm right or wrong it's been a while.

**putteesinmyhands** · 19-03-2010, 18:55

...and that's where I think we're starting to go into a bit too much detail...

Originally Posted by polar

Originally Posted by the_creature

what is RRU explain for a young infantree-er. Would it be regular radio user. Hmm WAhh......

Yes correct, when I did mine it was called TARU but use of the term RRU was more common because it's what the regulars were familiar with.

Is this what was previously known as the Platoon Signaller's cadre? (Which I completed 5 months before passing off as a trained soldier

)

Those were the days, my friends. We thought they'd never end...

**polar** · 20-03-2010, 00:31

Originally Posted by putteesinmyhands

Is this what was previously known as the Platoon Signaller's cadre? (Which I completed 5 months before passing off as a trained soldier

)

Those were the days, my friends. We thought they'd never end...

I did my TARU/RRU in 1988.... never heard of that cadre

**putteesinmyhands** · 20-03-2010, 01:52

It was 1976, the days when manpack radios were named after roads.

**polar** · 20-03-2010, 10:45

Unlike 1988 when I was told Clansman was being replaced by Bowman..... so so funny

**devilish** · 20-03-2010, 11:27

Polar, if you think TA BOWMAN can be taught in 5x40 minute lessons then you're deluding yourself.

**polar** · 21-03-2010, 01:35

Originally Posted by devilish

Polar, if you think TA BOWMAN can be taught in 5x40 minute lessons then you're deluding yourself.

I hope I am wrong but I expect it to be the case...... you might be able to guess what I'm assuming is going to happen.

**usmarox** · 21-03-2010, 21:52

Having just finished my CSC(TA), the Bowman content of the current course is 14 teaching periods, 2 revision periods and one test. Including, for the_creature's benefit, how to get new fill. Hint: it involves BATCO...

Speaking as an ex-ICS Op 3, you need to do this course. Ironically enough (it being half as long) I'd describe it as a class 3 trade course plus. From my recollection, my class 3 covered a lot of subjects in not a lot of depth, with the expectation that your sqn/tp would bring you up to speed on their equipments. CSC tries to produce a finished product (and comes far closer, having the advantage of teaching precisely one equipment.)

It was truly a pleasure to not have to do any SMP, though....and finally have my signalling genius recognised ;)