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Us our Military rank of WO1 & 2, Station Warrant Officer (RAF) and ...
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US Military Warrant Officer Rank
Do British Squaddies - junior ranks have to salute US Military Officers with the rank of Warrant officer? Just a bit curious.
Us our Military rank of WO1 & 2, Station Warrant Officer (RAF) and WO1 & 2 recognized as an equivalent rank as the US Military Sergeant Major under the NATO rank classification?Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity .....
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Are they commissioned?
Originally Posted by uncle_vanya 
No, they are not. So do not warrant a salute (see what I did there?).
US WOs are strange breed. They are notionally (in their own orbat) above ALL enlisted but beneath ALL commissioned pax. They are there own sub-group of ranking. (Up to five ranks depending on service).
That said, when working with them you may find some strange rank comparisons.
ie. Our SSM became an E8 equivalent, but our Yeoman of Signals became a CWO2 and our Foreman of Signals became CWO3 (it could have been CWO3 and CWO4 but you get the drift). Despite all being WO2s in the British Army.
This was early on when the Yanks had problems figuring out what rank the various allies were (Telic) hence the badges. I didn't wear one, as they thought a Cpl was a Cpl, but on talking to my 'equivalent oppisite' for the first time, I made a mental note to talk to 'higher' so to speak next time.
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Yes. Warrant Officer (W01) and Warrant Officer (W02) in the American Army are not the same thing as the similar sounding Warrant Officer (WO I) and Warrant Officer (WO II) in the British Army. And we would appreciate it, thanks.
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You are required to salute a commission, not a warrant. Simples. Look it up in QR's if you want.
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er, nope. Why you get a commission, come back. You may hold an officer equivalent rank that is saluted by your own forces, but we are only required to salute commissioned ranks. The equivalency is just that. We have Civil Servants that hold equivalent rank, they are not saluted as they don't have a commisison. Originally Posted by Ruckerwocman Oh, where are you coming from, soldier, gaunt soldier,
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It's a fair cop, guv. I'm orf. Originally Posted by Bouillabaisse Oh, where are you coming from, soldier, gaunt soldier,
With weapons beyond any reach of my mind,
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And die in its tracks, if it does not turn kind?
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Yup, the septics do throw one up for their Warrant Officers. In true septic style depending on which document you read the rank is either an appointment or a commission. My understanding is that of the 5 rank levels they all receive their chitty from Congress, except the most senior grade of Chief Warrant Officer 5 whose chitty is signed by the prez.
However their Warrant Officer rank is not like the UK WO rank - some functions require the individual to be a WO on taking up the job (Army CID investigator), a tad like the way all monkeys are Cpl's and RAF loadies are Sgt's.
The closest comparator the UK has to a septic WO rank (that is a rank in between NCO's and Officers) is the RLC rank of Conductor, my old man was one of these. They get to drink tea with the Brigadier and growl at RSM's. There are normally around 8 or 9 of them as I recall - even more senior than the top badge man at the Guards or Sandhursts ASM.
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