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02-02-2012, 13:21 #11Senior Member

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In good old Arrse fashion,
Agreed, but....
Not all sectors of industry would expect to see these sorts of personal statements, or give them any form of attention. After all, they are always self serving and often repetetive. They nearly always include trite phrases such as "good communicator, team worker, results driven" etc, when the reality would be "my colleagues barely speak to me because we have rowed so much, my BO and halitosis could stun my colleagues if we were ever in the same room and I need a new job because I keep cocking up here".
It is well worth doing the reseach to see what the practice is in your chosen field.
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02-02-2012, 13:24 #12
There was a long thread on the subject here
CV Template
Lots of good advice on this thread and lots on the thread link
Personally, I am not a big fan of 'translating' I think it makes you look too much like a smartarse, giving the perception that you trying to hoodwink a thick civvy or even somehow ashamed of your service history. I am sure anyone would have three quarters of an idea what a Regimental Signals Instructor actual did from those three words and if the CV explains it then so much the better. Instructing is definately not the same as lecturing, lecturing means something very different.
If you were an RSI then state it but explain what it involved and as the Duke says above, don't just list the duties of the role list your achievements in it.The ARRSE Online Filth Masterclass http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=112587.html
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02-02-2012, 13:35 #13
Get a civvy mate who knows nothing about the Army to read it before you use it. If anything confuses him/her, change it or get rid. Also, see if you have any friends who are in/know someone in an HR department, get their advice - it may start a conversation that leads to employment. As others have said, tailor your CV to the job spec (don't put in too much other stuff, no matter how impressive, if it's not relevant - you'll confuse the HR assistant doing the initial sift) and remember that your CV is a work in progress until you snuff it so keep doing things and keep it updated. Also, check your online presence to see if the incident with the goat made Facebook or some other internet septic tank - it's the first check that HR creatures do and it's amazing what they turn up when checking to see if you really did win that double VC and the Nobel Peace Prize.
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02-02-2012, 13:40 #14
FF makes a great point about your online presence
I always thought Facebook was a double edged sword, some of the others above may clarify but I understand for a lot of jobs now a Facebook search is often carried out.
Would reccomend LinkedIN though, very useful
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02-02-2012, 13:49 #15
Don't forget two vital additions.
1) Unless asked otherwise, always send a well constructed covering letter. This should cover, where you saw the advertised job, why you are suitable for the advertised role and when you are available for interview.
2) Your CV and covering letter are for getting you to interview, not for getting the job.
Interview technique is critical and that's what gets you employed. Good advice for you so far here, but don't get too tied up with the CV thing, although, as has been said, it has to be laid out correctly, and faultless in spelling and grammar.If you are an ex-serviceman or woman who wants to network mutual commercial interests, you can PM me for an invite to join the new ARRSE Business Group.
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02-02-2012, 13:53 #16
Your CV and covering letter have one purpose - to get you to a job interview. Without getting an interview, you can't get a job. From the CV point of view:
1) Make sure its neat, tidy and free from error. Scruffy CV = scruffy mind = in the bin.
2) Tailor the CV to highlight how your skills are appropriate for the job. Don't lie, just make sure your most pertinent skills are prominent.
3) Reinforce with covering letter - this should complement your CV, not recycle information from it.
Never, ever send off a bog standard CV and covering letter. If you haven't put the effort into them to show me your qualities, I won't put the effort into interviewing you.
Both in the CV and in the interview, a company is asking two questions:
A) Will this person fit into the present group of employees?
B) Does this person have a set of skills that will help the company work better?
Answer both those question well and you should be on course to get a job.
Wordsmith
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02-02-2012, 13:54 #17If you are able,
save them a place
inside of you
and save one backward glance
when you are leaving
for the places they can
no longer go.
Be not ashamed to say
you loved them,
though you may
or may not have always.
Take what they have left
and what they have taught you
with their dying
and keep it with your own.
And in that time
when men decide and feel safe
to call the war insane,
take one moment to embrace
those gentle heroes
you left behind.
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02-02-2012, 13:59 #18
This might sound superficial but my experience tells me that a well designed layout allows your CV to stand out from the crowd, don't go mad but making it look a bit different to the default Word formatting is worth the effort
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02-02-2012, 14:03 #19
Always use a clear font and ALWAYS use the best quality paper, it does help stand out a bit more. Don't use coloured paper White or Ivory I have found is the best.
I don't care if you hate me, I don't live to fucking please you.
Your God was nailed to a cross, My God has a hammer! Questions??
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02-02-2012, 14:11 #20
Just tell em you were a squaddie.
You're entitled to the job you know.
In fact, with your experience most employers will make you a manager straight away. £40k a year for doing the same job you did in the army.
At least that's what I heard.
D_L


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