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**Kitmarlowe** · 23-01-2009, 16:33

Originally Posted by Grownup_Rafbrat

A small and distant bell is ringing in my befuddled brain.

The bell remembers a few Private Eye articles about Parks Police taking 'responsibilities' well outside their Terms of Reference, including intimidating shopkeepers, 'arresting' people, and like Mr. Short himself, pretending to be something they were not.

Other PE readers remember the same?

I'll womble off and do a little research, but it may need a clever person. (Where's ugly when you need him?)

I recall the very thing.......with various amusing headers about "Keystone cops" and the like.

**blue-sophist** · 23-01-2009, 16:34

For the convenience of any Media friends, may I also suggest the following reading:
Dodgy uniform and medals
Dubious Claims

We know the man with the 1000 yard stare is a Dubious Walt, BUT ...

Is he a proper person to be operating in the Security Industry?
Is he a well-adjusted individual?
Has his business "empire" been built on deception and falsehood?
Are his alleged links with celebrities, businesses and Governmental bodies genuine?
Are his accounts and tax affairs in order?
Is he licenced?
Are his firearms licenced?
Are his claimed qualifications genuine?

... and ...

Why would someone living in the ROI happily claim to be PARA and SAS, unless suicidal?

All this, and much more, is available at your local ARRSE website

**niner_domestic** · 23-01-2009, 16:35

This is all wonderful news and kudos to those who went blind looking at ribbons and bling!

I think it's important for any journalist reading these pages to understand that people like Jim Shortt are all over the place and we'll be seeing an explosion of people who will claim to have served in either Iraq or Afghanistan. We'll see book after book selling tales from the trenches and the authors will try and claim some sort of special force service to make it all glamourous.

However, the real stories are not from those who claim glory for themselves but from the thousands of men and women who drove, flew and walked their way to carry out the mission. Once in a while, a single act of bravery and courage takes place that is so remarkable, that it holds us in awe of the person carrying it out. We will, if our governments deem it, award our greatest honours to these individuals. In other cases such as the men and women who fall or are injured, we honour them each November.

There are thousands of stories for the journalists to pick from, they don't need to invent a character or give another 15 minutes of fame to a pretender. Check everything, don't assume anything.

As for Shortt, he'll continue to lie his way around the world and without a doubt he'll be carpet bagging again when we exit Iraq and Afghanistan and plying his wares. Except this time he'll just be plain old Jim Shortt from Croydon.

**DrStealth** · 23-01-2009, 16:40

Originally Posted by blue-sophist

Are his firearms licenced?

none of the 'firearms' piled on that table are real, they are all de-acts, replicas, blank firers or air guns.

fantasist toys for kids with overactive imaginations who like to play at soldiers.

**blue-sophist** · 23-01-2009, 16:52

Originally Posted by DrStealth

Originally Posted by blue-sophist

Are his firearms licenced?

none of the 'firearms' piled on that table are real, they are all de-acts, replicas, blank firers or air guns.
fantasist toys for kids with overactive imaginations who like to play at soldiers.

I'd assumed that.

However, the ROI has a bit of thing about people charging around in a paramilitary manner ... don't they?

**DrStealth** · 23-01-2009, 16:54

Originally Posted by blue-sophist

Originally Posted by DrStealth

Originally Posted by blue-sophist

Are his firearms licenced?

none of the 'firearms' piled on that table are real, they are all de-acts, replicas, blank firers or air guns.
fantasist toys for kids with overactive imaginations who like to play at soldiers.

I'd assumed that.

However, the ROI has a bit of thing about people charging around in a paramilitary manner ... don't they?

oooo-yes!

**cpunk** · 23-01-2009, 16:55

I have a feeling that the noble Baron can feel the hot breath of nemesis on the back of his neck. Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

**DANJANOU** · 23-01-2009, 16:59

Not sure if we covered it before ( then again the EU one, #12 was positively identified a year ago IIRC) but some info on #13 The NATO Medal for Yugoslavia Service

http://www.medals.org.uk/nato/nato004.htmAwarded: For 30 days' service with NATO forces in the Former Yugoslavia (or 90 days' service in support of the mission in Greece, Italy, Hungary or Austria.)

http://www.gg.ca/honours/medals/hon04-nato_e.asp
NATO Medal for Former Yugoslavia (NATO-FY)This NATO Medal is awarded to military and civilian personnel who are, or have been, engaged in operations, or in direct support of operations, conducted by NATO in the Former Yugoslavia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Medal
The NATO Medal for Yugoslavia service was created in June 1992 and awarded to any military member of a NATO peacekeeping force who performed service in the former republics of Yugoslavia for at least thirty days. For those performing support missions to Yugoslavia, such as from European bases or ships in the Adriatic Sea, a total of ninety days of duty in direct support of Yugoslavia NATO missions is required from the NATO Medal to be awarded. Under the same conditions of service, some medals have also been awarded to NATO International Civilians and civilians of the member nations attached to the military forces

As you can see technically could be awarded to civilians in support of the mission although the criteria are a bit grey. This one could be a legitimate award. Naturally it the last in the order of precedence on his rack, which presuming Jimbo is adhering to Commonwealth rules and regs re the weraing of awards means it is the least significant. Then again I don’t have it so if it was legitimatley awared for service in the FRY then props to him. Of course I'd love to see the details of when and why it was awarded and by whom.

And crap I said I wasn’t going to get involved in the bling hunt this season.

**redsquirrel** · 23-01-2009, 17:03

Originally Posted by DrStealth

Originally Posted by blue-sophist

Are his firearms licenced?

none of the 'firearms' piled on that table are real, they are all de-acts, replicas, blank firers or air guns.

fantasist toys for kids with overactive imaginations who like to play at soldiers.

Well spotted Dr S, I've been taking another look at the IBA website photos and the gats in them look dodgy to me. Especially that AK in front of the wanted poster and the M16A2(?) just looks too plasticy and both look totally unused/unworn. Jimbo, next time try dry brushing the detail with a touch of silver paint for that well-used, ally, swing-the-lamp, pull-up-a-sandbag-sonny, look.

Gun Nut, I think you're definately the winner on that medal identification.

**DANJANOU** · 23-01-2009, 17:10

Ah what the hell, as long as I'm doing this again.

The latest CV has given me a clue for another candidate for 'No 9'. It bears a strong resemblance to some of the Estonian Defence League (Kaitseliit) medals. See http://www.rk.ee/symb/ametk/kliit.htm

I think we have a winner. Ribbon and overall oval shape/clours match.

A look at the catch thingy that actually holds the medal to the ribbon may give a clue to why it appeared arly as a head facing left or right in different pictures. It looks like this one may revolve or flip a bit, especially if not properly court mounted and/or if the wearer is involved in some strenuous activty such as hacking the tops of defenceless champagne bottle with big fracking knofe to impress the other walts.

I actually saw one of the old and bold at my legion branch at Levy who had his one real medal (12 years undected crime niner) all turned around on his blazer.

It would seem to me anyone who can't be bothered to shine his bloddy shoes would miss this before a photo op.