Thread: DVD OUT TODAY Young soldier film 'Broken Britain'

Originally Posted by mark1234

Originally Posted by callum13

Originally Posted by oldbaldy

I'm dizzy looking at this:

Your State of Emergency: A Mark Ashmore Film

what a load of crap, Al Quada make better films than that.

Proper sh!te, expect this film to have a student politics slant, I wouldn't trust brylcreem boy as far a jarrod could f**k him.

watch it then give your verdict, i wrote it after seeing what pol pot had done in Cambodia at S21 when i traveled there in 2005 (yes after uni :D ) and also reflects on the regime in burma and Zimbabwe, no student politics. real shit

Originally Posted by asha

exactly, thats why i need your input, so rip the idea, but expand it, thats the starting point,

constructive, to the point comments, and it can develop

what would you like to see, thats not been done already and can be made in Manchester for 2k.

Can you confirm that it will be in no way anti military, there are more than enough documentarys and fictional programs that are.

Also is it going to be a PTSD grief fest?

Originally Posted by mark1234

Originally Posted by asha

exactly, thats why i need your input, so rip the idea, but expand it, thats the starting point,

constructive, to the point comments, and it can develop

what would you like to see, thats not been done already and can be made in Manchester for 2k.

Can you confirm that it will be in no way anti military, there are more than enough documentarys and fictional programs that are.

Also is it going to be a PTSD grief fest?

its going to be human story, it will have elements of everything possibley PTSD if that effects the characters choices, but only if thats the truth,

i don't know what its like to fight in a war, but my cousin is driving tanks in basra and one of my best mates served in both iraq and afghanistan and is now out, so iam not going to make something that is not going to stand up as truth.

Admit it though you do want to make the soppiest story possible with the intent of making your student chummies cry and bitch about "the futility of war" hoping to gain something from it all

"This 10min short film is about 2 soliders coming back from Afghanistan after surivving a road side bomb in which 2 other best friends and soldiers where killed because the Landrover they where in was not protected properly. on leave, on the last night, after the wake, in a club, one of them wants to leave the army, the other wants revenge for his dead friends, but when Amy the girlfriend of one of the soldiers reveals she is pregnant, the soldier who vowed revenge must decide which family he will honour. "

... he mulls this over for a while with the aid of 12 pints of stella (generous wake!) gets into a fight with his mate about the Army being shite. his CSM who is also at the wake comes over to calm the situation down and get them to show a bit of respect. The pished bloke who wants to leave the Army punches out the CSM, the tortured bloke grabs Amy and takes her outside for the safety of his dead mates unborn child as the wake explodes into a bar room brawl. The relatives cower behind the furniture as support company trash the joint and beat each other to a pulp, before making up and getting naked. Amy thanks Mark and, overcome with the emotion of the event, gives him a kneee trembler in an alleyway. Dead bloke's mum sees this and berates her for tainting the memory of her son. tortured bloke (trousers round ankles) throws up 12 pints of stella over dead blokes mum and Amy before passing out in car park...

uqfegd

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Originally Posted by pensionpointer

"This 10min short film is about 2 soliders coming back from Afghanistan after surivving a road side bomb in which 2 other best friends and soldiers where killed because the Landrover they where in was not protected properly. on leave, on the last night, after the wake, in a club, one of them wants to leave the army, the other wants revenge for his dead friends, but when Amy the girlfriend of one of the soldiers reveals she is pregnant, the soldier who vowed revenge must decide which family he will honour. "

... he mulls this over for a while with the aid of 12 pints of stella (generous wake!) gets into a fight with his mate about the Army being shite. his CSM who is also at the wake comes over to calm the situation down and get them to show a bit of respect. The pished bloke who wants to leave the Army punches out the CSM, the tortured bloke grabs Amy and takes her outside for the safety of his dead mates unborn child as the wake explodes into a bar room brawl. The relatives cower behind the furniture as support company trash the joint and beat each other to a pulp, before making up and getting naked. Amy thanks Mark and, overcome with the emotion of the event, gives him a kneee trembler in an alleyway. Dead bloke's mum sees this and berates her for tainting the memory of her son. tortured bloke (trousers round ankles) throws up 12 pints of stella over dead blokes mum and Amy before passing out in car park...

uqfegd

pp

write me something i can make then, that above sounds like eastenders!!!!!! which is not the truth,

Originally Posted by pensionpointer

"This 10min short film is about 2 soliders coming back from Afghanistan after surivving a road side bomb in which 2 other best friends and soldiers where killed because the Landrover they where in was not protected properly. on leave, on the last night, after the wake, in a club, one of them wants to leave the army, the other wants revenge for his dead friends, but when Amy the girlfriend of one of the soldiers reveals she is pregnant, the soldier who vowed revenge must decide which family he will honour. "

... he mulls this over for a while with the aid of 12 pints of stella (generous wake!) gets into a fight with his mate about the Army being shite. his CSM who is also at the wake comes over to calm the situation down and get them to show a bit of respect. The pished bloke who wants to leave the Army punches out the CSM, the tortured bloke grabs Amy and takes her outside for the safety of his dead mates unborn child as the wake explodes into a bar room brawl. The relatives cower behind the furniture as support company trash the joint and beat each other to a pulp, before making up and getting naked. Amy thanks Mark and, overcome with the emotion of the event, gives him a kneee trembler in an alleyway. Dead bloke's mum sees this and berates her for tainting the memory of her son. tortured bloke (trousers round ankles) throws up 12 pints of stella over dead blokes mum and Amy before passing out in car park...

uqfegd

pp

Want to make a 'truthfull' film?Make that.I would pay to see it.
Actually I wouldnt,and would wait for it to make its way to a torrent,but you get the idea.

Originally Posted by fusil89

Admit it though you do want to make the soppiest story possible with the intent of making your student chummies cry and bitch about "the futility of war" hoping to gain something from it all

war has its place, i don;'t doubt that

but it effects everyone in different ways, not just the serving heroes, or people doing their job, but people back home,
the people on the street make an opinion by what they are told by the media or the BBC?

the story is about someone who wants to do his duty and a weaker soldier that wants to leave, anybody know why someone would leave, and how?

Originally Posted by Mr_Deputy

do you know what - apart from the screen full of balloons at the beginning (I thought you were hiding behind a ballon and some jelly to keep safe but realised you were showing you'd put the camera down in shock) its not too bad!!

the bloke doing the briefing in front of the over head projector is not totally unconvicing as a military type of charcter for example.

the female 'questioner' isn't too bad either! but in a different way...

cheers, could you see my purpose for making this film, and then my reasoning to make this one, watch the 'cell' on my website, you'll find it

That actually sounds pretty authentic (except the knee trembler part).
Loads of blokes in the army have kids and doesnt stop them doing their job it just means that they have to make more phonecalls home.

Worrying about the family is always an issue but it just means you have more reason to keep yourself alive for their sake.

Truthful how about soldier comes home on leave after ops spends quality time with wife and children. Visits parents and family has a few pints with old friends then goes back to unit and soldiers on. That's what happens 99% of the time

Honestly, what's the point? It'll only turn out to be bollocks like every other effort has. But, if you must, here's a few pointers:

1. If you must dress your actors in uniforms, make sure you get a soldier to take a look. Most dramas fall at the first hurdle with a military audience for the simple reason that the berets look bloody ludicrous.

2. Not all officers sound like Bertie Wooster, not all squaddies sound like Baldrick.

3. The 'sadistic Sergeant' and 'arrogant Major' exist almost exclusively in the minds of arts students who think too much. Like all large organisations, the MOD can be heartless and beauracratic but in the vast majority of cases, the care and man-management provide by platoon or troop staff on the ground is matchless.

4. Very, very few soldiers walk around seething with anger over political issues (even those that affect them directly). There is no Vietnam-type situation at present, morale is not at rock bottom. The lads crack on, whinge like good 'uns (as they always have) but go out and do the business (as they always have).

5. Your film will be unrealistic if it does not contain every swear-word known to man (in English, German, Serbo-Croat and Arabic) and frequent humorous references to things most civvies would find utterly disgusting. How Madaleine McCann is fitter than Sharon, that kind of thing.

6. Regimental loyalty is not some mythical attachment to the Unit, come what may. Plenty of people have severe problems with the ordinary, every-day stuff that goes on in a Unit and it is to the intangible idea of the Regiment that they are loyal. Few blokes sit around the NAAFI discussing the Regiment's role at the Battle of Omdurman and most would consider anyone who did a bit of a geek. However, even if Omdurman (for example) is just a name on a Colour, people will feel slighted if the Regiment's role there is slagged-off by an outsider. Confused? Good. Regimental loyalty is something that it is nigh-on impossible for a civvie to understand, no matter how clever and 'Creative' they are. Whatever you are thinking, it is probably wrong.

7. Squaddies generally do not fight in pubs and scream poetic laments for lost friends on a daily basis. If you want to make your dialogue in any way realistic, be inspired by listening to people in Tesco, not Henry V.

8. Don't bother. It's all been done before and you'll end up making us look like wankers (again). Keep it real and make a film based on your own experiences rather than those of people you have to come onto an internet forum to find.

Cheerio.

Ok, I have had a word with a friend, he is willing to talk to you , he is ex-para reg been there, done that and killed mucho ragheads.

He will only do it though if he can play himself in the film.

This is his pizco site, contact him there.

Originally Posted by joey_deacons_lad

Truthful how about soldier comes home on leave after ops spends quality time with wife and children. Visits parents and family has a few pints with old friends then goes back to unit and soldiers on. That's what happens 99% of the time

i orginally wrote something like that, the funders said it was too long?

Originally Posted by wedge35

Honestly, what's the point? It'll only turn out to be balls like every other effort has. But, if you must, here's a few pointers:

1. If you must dress your actors in uniforms, make sure you get a soldier to take a look. Most dramas fall at the first hurdle with a military audience for the simple reason that the berets look bloody ludicrous.

2. Not all officers sound like Bertie Wooster, not all squaddies sound like Baldrick.

3. The 'sadistic Sergeant' and 'arrogant Major' exist almost exclusively in the minds of arts students who think too much. Like all large organisations, the MOD can be heartless and beauracratic but in the vast majority of cases, the care and man-management provide by platoon or troop staff on the ground is matchless.

4. Very, very few soldiers walk around seething with anger over political issues (even those that affect them directly). There is no Vietnam-type situation at present, morale is not at rock bottom. The lads crack on, whinge like good 'uns (as they always have) but go out and do the business (as they always have).

5. Your film will be unrealistic if it does not contain every swear-word known to man (in English, German, Serbo-Croat and Arabic) and frequent humorous references to things most civvies would find utterly disgusting. How Madaleine McCann is fitter than Sharon, that kind of thing.

6. Regimental loyalty is not some mythical attachment to the Unit, come what may. Plenty of people have severe problems with the ordinary, every-day stuff that goes on in a Unit and it is to the intangible idea of the Regiment that they are loyal. Few blokes sit around the NAAFI discussing the Regiment's role at the Battle of Omdurman and most would consider anyone who did a bit of a geek. However, even if Omdurman (for example) is just a name on a Colour, people will feel slighted if the Regiment's role there is slagged-off by an outsider. Confused? Good. Regimental loyalty is something that it is nigh-on impossible for a civvie to understand, no matter how clever and 'Creative' they are. Whatever you are thinking, it is probably wrong.

7. Squaddies generally do not fight in pubs and scream poetic laments for lost friends on a daily basis. If you want to make your dialogue in any way realistic, be inspired by listening to people in Tesco, not Henry V.

8. Don't bother. It's all been done before and you'll end up making us look like wankers (again). Keep it real and make a film based on your own experiences rather than those of people you have to come onto an internet forum to find.

Cheerio.

thanks for that, will take it on board, and yes i agree i have to write it from my own experience, and everything else you said rings true, can you PM we some langauge?