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Discuss Labour's latest batty idea - "Service Schools" run by ex-forces in The Intelligence Cell on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by jarrod248 Really? I don't think so. Look at what they said last time something like this was proposed (fast tracking ex Servicemen into teaching). The usual rent a gob marxists kicked up ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarrod248 View Post
    Really? I don't think so.
    Look at what they said last time something like this was proposed (fast tracking ex Servicemen into teaching). The usual rent a gob marxists kicked up a huge fuss and it vanished from the news.
    There is some merit in this idea, but turkeys dont vote for Christmas.
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    Modern teachers do not have much of a clue about how the modern army operates .
    I heard one interviewed a few months back who said " I don't see how peeling potatoes will help children's education ".
    Maybe teachers ought to be taught by the military , rather than the kids .
    The Methods of Instruction course would be a great use to them for a start .
    Mixing forces people and teachers will be like mixing oil and water , but fun to watch nevertheless .
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    I saw a program sometime ago on this. This has already been established in the US, whereby ex servicemen teach in "Da Hood". Somebody obviously saw Tom Beringer in "The Substitute" and thought this would be a good idea. In the US it is working, students are performing better and class delinquency is down.

    I have heard that there are plans to bring the CCF into State Schools with Squaddies to teachers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fozzy View Post
    Look at what they said last time something like this was proposed (fast tracking ex Servicemen into teaching). The usual rent a gob marxists kicked up a huge fuss and it vanished from the news.
    There is some merit in this idea, but turkeys dont vote for Christmas.
    Unions are pretty powerless these days, many of my teachers were ex-forces. Can't see it being attractive to many though.
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    I would like to take form 3b for advanced beasting then PT till you puke second period if thats possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbeaus View Post
    . . and when you considers Govies plans, . .
    One of which was courting News International to create a Free school

    Rupert Murdoch reveals meetings with Michael Gove over free schools | Education | guardian.co.uk


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    As an ex Military School kid, I think the idea has some serious merit - however the RAEC no longer exists, and the ETS is undermanned, so how are they going to make it work?
    They are talking about using ex forces as teachers - no big deal, there are already a lot of ex forces personnel who have gone into that career, but who is going to actually run the school?
    If it's the local authority, the teachers will be hamstrung by liberal lefties saying you can't discipline the kids, so the benefit is lost.
    If it's the MOD - where is the money going to come from? and are we going to expand the ETS back to the old roles of the RAEC? or even have a "Reserve Forces" ETS specifically for this purpose?.

    I like the idea of schools run with more discipline and values, and with teachers who actually give a shit about how the kid turns out - I see it regularly as a Cadet instructor when you get a kid who the teacher/parent says "He/She is out of control and they mentioned cadets so we thought we'd try it, but don't give my little darling too much grief, they can't handle it" .
    The kid takes a month or so to get the hint that the "youf culture" attitude is not acceptable and starts put in some effort, - cue parents/teachers coming in saying "I don't know what you did, but thanks- he/she is a different kid".
    Most kids CAN be valued members of society, but they need someone to look up to, and a sense of belonging - otherwise they look up to the "rap culture" and belong to gangs..

    Just my 2c
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    oh, and by the way - those kids need a serious lesson on beret shaping and ironing - I can only hope they are first years on their first parade - that looks like the old matrons house outside Haig/Kitchener so they could be.
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    Great a huge population explosion all those female students it would be a nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumblegrunt View Post
    I would like to take form 3b for advanced beasting then PT till you puke second period if thats possible
    Certainly cure the obesity problem

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