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    I;m sure all of the speakers have redistributed their accumulated wealth Among the people and not horded it in a bank somewhere


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    Quote Originally Posted by BugzDaMick View Post
    I take it you won't be coming along then?



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    Absolutely not, you self-righteous fucknugget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Brickie View Post
    Absolutely not, you self-righteous fucknugget.
    Ooh, you ole smoothie, you. I bet you say that to all your boyfriends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BugzDaMick View Post
    Ooh, you ole smoothie, you. I bet you say that to all your boyfriends.

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    At least they'd go away spent and satisfied, as opposed to the bullshit you try to baffle brains with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Brickie View Post
    At least they'd go away spent and satisfied, as opposed to the bullshit you try to baffle brains with.
    I can sort of vaguely guess what you're trying to say with that, but if you could rephrase it so that it's halfways coherent, that'd be nice. On the other hand, if English isn't your first language (just guessing from your sytax), then don't bother.

    So you don't want to attend our political festival. Fine. Don't. I'm sure nobody'll be sobbing into their Corn Flakes because of your absence.

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    Bugsy doesn't do maths, basic arithmetic and has issues with honesty. Don't expect his take on the country's population of 18 year olds to be addressed.

    Bugsy, as a (plastic?) bogtrotter living and working in France WTF concern of yours is the UK's business model? Get on your bike and ride across the UK: you'll see more 18 year olds than you thought you might.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BugzDaMick View Post
    I take it you won't be coming along then?

    It's an ideal opportunity to find out why the present "austerity measures" are actually not necessary and how we can all contribute to improving the lives of as many folks as possible in both a materialistic and financial sense. Things are not getting better and the Capitalist gobments just keep applying the same methods that caused the financial crisis in the first place.

    Find out why they're privatising the NHS and as many public services as they can. Does anyone have an example of a public service being privatised and actually improving? No, thought not. But there are alternatives and if we all work together, we can do something about reversing all the privatisations and the lowering of our standards of living just so that the rich can become even richer. We need a system in which folks matter and are taken seriously. We need a much more stable social system in which it's possible to plan from one year to the next, in which folks begin to enjoy life and not struggle from one end of the month to the next.

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    Yes, Bugz, that's all very well. But if we are then expected to hand over all this good stuff we have worked and strived for to some freeloading cunt from the other side of the world who hasn't earned it, then we may as well not bother. Do we get to keep the good stuff for ourselves once we've won the good fight for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BugzDaMick View Post
    I take it you won't be coming along then?

    It's an ideal opportunity to find out why the present "austerity measures" are actually not necessary and how we can all contribute to improving the lives of as many folks as possible in both a materialistic and financial sense. Things are not getting better and the Capitalist gobments just keep applying the same methods that caused the financial crisis in the first place.

    Find out why they're privatising the NHS and as many public services as they can. Does anyone have an example of a public service being privatised and actually improving? No, thought not. But there are alternatives and if we all work together, we can do something about reversing all the privatisations and the lowering of our standards of living just so that the rich can become even richer. We need a system in which folks matter and are taken seriously. We need a much more stable social system in which it's possible to plan from one year to the next, in which folks begin to enjoy life and not struggle from one end of the month to the next.

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    Problem is Bugsy, your solution is the one that's recently failed. You are all railing against the failure of capitalism but you are wrong. Is borrowing vast sums of money to fund expensive social welfare systems capitalism? Is borrowing vast sums to fund healthcare or education or transport capitalism?

    The fact is that the European social democratic model has failed not capitalism. Europe is in the depths of crisis because of this reckless sovereign borrowing, don't blame the bankers for this, blame the (left wing) politicians for ignoring the fact that you have to service your debt and pay it back. They even banned "short selling" citing it's effect on the economy without realising that they really are the canaries in the coal mine.

    They borrowed against our childrens future to build an artificial economy in order to redistribute money to those who did not earn it. In this country Labour artificially inflated the economy to such an extent that the bubble when it burst caused a massive collapse.

    Had the banks not gone along with this they would have legislated to make it happen as happened disastrously in America.

    You can't fix the problem without understanding it, you don't understand it. You are looking for scapegoats not solutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seadog View Post
    Bugsy doesn't do maths, basic arithmetic and has issues with honesty. Don't expect his take on the country's population of 18 year olds to be addressed.

    Bugsy, as a (plastic?) bogtrotter living and working in France WTF concern of yours is the UK's business model? Get on your bike and ride across the UK: you'll see more 18 year olds than you thought you might.
    Hey, Seadog! Long time, no read, so to speak. I see you moved from the littoral in the meantime. Fancy starting a thread about 9/11? I'll join in then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seadog View Post
    Bugsy doesn't do maths, basic arithmetic and has issues with honesty. Don't expect his take on the country's population of 18 year olds to be addressed.

    Bugsy, as a (plastic?) bogtrotter living and working in France WTF concern of yours is the UK's business model? Get on your bike and ride across the UK: you'll see more 18 year olds than you thought you might.
    Fuck, he's not over here is he?
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