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**chocolate_frog** · 09-06-2012, 08:51

Turning our backs on Britain's fallen | Mail Online

We've all seen the news headlines such as '99.9% of kids think Churchill is a nodding dog' or '0.0001% of kids actually know we were in WW2'.

So should there be a drive on informing the kids about the Wars we've fought?

We've had a drive on getting the stories fromt eh last of the Tommies before they go, I'll assume we'll have another drive on getting the stories from our WW2 Tommies afore they go too.

We've had concerted efforts to film teh Antarctic, but apart from World At War have we had any definitive, contempory shows on WW2, WW1 and others?

Should we ensure that our kids are taught about what the War Memorials are? Why they are there? Who they remember to us?

And, ever important in this modern age, who/how pays?

**llech** · 09-06-2012, 09:08

Without googling give me 10 of the major battles of theECW, increbibly important to the Britain we live in today, don't get wound up about kids not getting all blearly eyed when they hear the roar of a Merlin, kids are kids.

**chocolate_frog** · 09-06-2012, 09:16

I would but I have to admit that I don't know what you are on about?

ECW?

**chocolate_frog** · 09-06-2012, 09:28

Ok, I googled 'battles of ECW' to figure out what you wanted.

Powick Bridge.

Edge Hill

Nantwich

Marston Moor

Beacon Hill

Naseby

Langport

Sourton Down.

That's all I can manage wth out further googley woogliey... but to be honest, I probably knew more when I was reading up on the English Civil War.

I don't think they should be getting moist at the sound of Merlin, or even name 10 battles from teh war. But a little knowledge of why the battles were fought, and by whom wouldn't go a miss.

Failing that, and I have put this forward before, as well as an Age thing on the front of the DVD/Movie/TV Programe there should be a 'fidelity' rating. Dambusters would get about 8 out of 10, Braveheart would get 4 and U-571 would get -3.

Except if they've renamed Nigger... then Dambusters drops to 0 fideltiy.

**Domart** · 09-06-2012, 09:29

Can I use google for ECW?

**Domart** · 09-06-2012, 09:30

Oh that!

**CQMS** · 09-06-2012, 09:31

I don't know how kids miss it, you can't turn on Discovery or the History Channel without something being on. If it wasn't for wars the channels wouldn't exist.

**smartascarrots** · 09-06-2012, 09:38

It's maybe just a symptom of times moving on. How many of the people who fought WW2 could reel off the important battles of the Civil War by heart? How many of the people who fought the Civil War could reel off the battles of the Wars of the Roses by heart? How many of those who fought the Wars of the Roses knew or even cared about the battles between the pre-unification English kingdoms? Yet all of these have shaped the world we live in to a great extent.

As history recedes into the past, it loses it's immediate importance to the people of today and its relevance to their lives. Plus ca change.

**llech** · 09-06-2012, 09:43

Originally Posted by CQMS

I don't know how kids miss it, you can't turn on Discovery or the History Channel without something being on. If it wasn't for wars the channels wouldn't exist.

I think the problem might be in years to come with most history on telly being somewhat America centirc Britains War will be largely forgotten ( bit like the 14th Army tbh) I wouldn't get all het up mind about most kids not knowing who Churchill was, most kids couldn't tell you who David Cassidy was either, but can tell you what JLS' lead singers faviroute colour is. It's just time moves on.

**chocolate_frog** · 09-06-2012, 09:54

Originally Posted by CQMS

I don't know how kids miss it, you can't turn on Discovery or the History Channel without something being on. If it wasn't for wars the channels wouldn't exist.

To busy watching pop factor, stoking their dreams of inadequacy...

I used to like it when we had Sky in the Ops Room, esp on a morning or weekend shift... or a night shift. Just watch History, the Discovery... in about 8 hours you've watched both channels. (do they still do a rolling 4 hour broadcast?)

Besides, both channels are quite American centric. Google the youtube of Bismark... yes, I know it's a German ship, but the role of the RN was quite overlooked... apart from when HMS Hood blew up, or they lost her on radar!