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    Religious No ! but I do feel sensations from those that aren't with us these days !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    I dang to your bing K here. My opus chocolate magnum earlier and here is, yes badly indeed, with knobs on I concede, NOT saying there is a COMPLETE logical argument for ANYTHING as logic is limited. All camps can use logic but any argument will run into the sand eventually. I am purely, badly, without sufficient forethought, iPad-a-bingo, saying logic, with its lover and mistress, Maths, is offering insoluble problems, hence into the bed slips Faith with its reflective self, questions of who we are truly etc. Logical arguments we can offer but they will be tautological fundamentally, as logic can say if it is cold or not cold but not what the cold is like.
    Cold can be seen in action by anyone, animals react to it, we all feel it as a common experience, it can be examined and measured. It is not imagined, unlike your supernatural delusions.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    Jesus walked into the hands of the Roman authorities for a severe shoeing. Nails. Either, mad, bad or...
    So the story goes... A guy walks into a police station and claims to be from Mars...what happened next?

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    WWI and II were Industrial or Enlightenment wars, 400 years of science, philosophy, knowledge, rationalism, empiricism gave us the ability, mind , intent to obliterate 140 millions souls with rational efficiency. Hate knew no bounds in the heart of some very well educated men. Is it possible wisdom is found elsewhere?
    You have no idea what enlightenment is BSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuffy52 View Post
    Now Now,We are not in the NAAFI now are we?,and at 10 45 in the morning you have cheered me up big time,however your put down still falls short of your capabilities,,,,4 out of 10,must try harder........
    You are a silly twat without anything worthwhile to say...enjoy the experience on me, I'm in a generous mood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    I see that import but would argue validity pertains to the domains of thought. Scientific method in its wonderful genius pertains to validating hard patterns found in law like qualities of phenomena; those entities that are without consciousness and wont to be unfaithful to their natures, ie human beings. So validity for the social world cannot be found from science. Life won't conform to it nor is our internal thought life open to public scrutiny, a prerequisite for science.

    What have you got against science? Science is giving you a good life... Why not be a good christian, sell all your worldly possessions and donate everything to starving children?

    Hypocrite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    Does seem so that we've returned to environment increasingly as part of empirical discussion. The debate has swung away from Leibniz to Hume's writing, not for the first time.

    Rather committed to ethno and graphy schools of social science, that we, as modern Western people groups privilege what our environment has cultured us in to e.g. rational, sceptical etc. But some will over privilege these modes. Thankfully we've got a great literature tradition still within modernity to show our foolishness, not least the bible's 'mirror' on humanity.
    With all your books and philosophy it is clear that you are confused, struggling to blend the garbled written works from history with the real world. Step outside for a moment and find that life is not like in the books. It works without literature...nature is not a library!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgs_bosun View Post
    What have you got against science? Science is giving you a good life... Why not be a good christian, sell all your worldly possessions and donate everything to starving children?

    Hypocrite!
    Hail Higgs or summit or other ....... !

    Obviously a soft civvie #+*t ;0)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre View Post
    I'm suspecting that Higgs Boson is really Richard Dorkins on one of his (even) less rational and balanced days but that might just be the product of a particularly good week.

    Sorry I can't keep up with the ebb and flow here but life seems to be conspiring against me with all these people who obviously have no need of faith, God, support and all the other stuff.

    And dinner beckons (hallelujah)

    Thanks for the posts - interesting stuff.
    Said it earlier about how many religions there are and how many "branches" there are of Christianity alone. So which one is your "belief" and why does that mean that your brainwashing is more valid than David Koresh's was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgs_bosun View Post
    You are a silly twat without anything worthwhile to say...enjoy the experience on me, I'm in a generous mood.
    Your debating skills are getting a little disjointed at the moment,you really must try harder,3 out of 10....
    We're in greater danger today than we were the day after Dunkirk. Our military is absolutely incapable of defending this country.Thanks to Broon and Osborne .

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsbrink View Post
    Said it earlier about how many religions there are and how many "branches" there are of Christianity alone. So which one is your "belief" and why does that mean that your brainwashing is more valid than David Koresh's was?
    Ah, you are back, with the same question I see. The Teutonic spirit of categorising humanity is a work that must continue.

    Kierkegaard: 'If you label me, you negate me' comes to mind.
    "As we moved slowly through the outskirts of the town we passed row after row of little grey slum houses running at right angles to the embankment. At the back of one of the houses a young woman was kneeling on the stones, poking a stick up the leaden waste-pipe which ran from the sink inside and which I suppose was blocked. I had time to see everything about her - her sacking apron, her clumsy clogs, her arms reddened by the cold. She looked up as the train passed, and I was almost near enough to catch her eye." Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier

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    With pleasure. This first one I came across in an RE lesson
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