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Discuss "Are you Religious" II in The Intelligence Cell on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker Crayons out. Well as you should know by now, your mad waffle deserves no respect. There are intelligent people here trying to get the message through and you reply with subjective ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    Crayons out.

    Well as you should know by now, your mad waffle deserves no respect. There are intelligent people here trying to get the message through and you reply with subjective junk that is a million miles from the points raised.

    You can agree that religions are crackers but stop short at reasoning about your own delusion. We will continue the battle hoping that one day you will understand.

    The supernatural stories of jesus are myths, his philosophy was inadequate and there is no merit in trying to live your life in accordance with biblical babble. Better to worship nature and listen to the innate feelings that evolution has provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    Crayons out.
    Why - are we colouring in angels in the book this morning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dashing_Chap View Post
    *snip*
    I also doubt we meet the characters every day too, most people in modern Britain wouldn't even realise they'd offended the boring old cow in that Emma clip. Most of them would say "Shut your mouth your boring old cow" and be done with it (and a good job too cos she is a boring old cow). The polite manners and refined behaviour of the early 19thC are a million miles away from how people act today, most don't even remember to introduce their guests to people at social gatherings and parties so what hope have they of examining their behaviour towards others? The entire social sphere has been replaced by brash American behaviour and narcissism, we're better off looking at the cretins on Big Brother to gain an understanding of society.

    Society is rotten, but no more rotten than it's ever been. There hasn't been much to distinguish Christ's message of love over a 2000 year period, and many of the worst perpetrators are followers of Christ. At the end of the day though his message isn't needed because it's confusing mythology, what's needed is education and understanding, this is the best philosophy to follow, not an obscure dogma and inaccurate belief. *snip*
    Perhaps you should realise that books from authors like Austen or the Brönte sisters are about a thin upper crust of society which is portrayed in a very romantic manner.
    Just out of view is the great unwashed majority who haven't been much changed since then. They main difference is nowadays they have broadscreen tellies and wear hoodies...

    As to how recognisable the Austen / Brönte stories are; it has been said there are only seven original storylines possible. they are often described as series of conflicts: Man vs. Man, Man vs. Nature, Man against God, Man vs. Society, Man in the Middle, Man & Woman, Man vs. Himself. In the basic stories there are basic personalities and archetypes are timeless.
    a hag is a hag. She used to live in a gingerbread house and nowadays she is played by Catherine Tate...
    Watch out! Kim Jong Il is watching you!

    If wars were won by feasting, or, victory by song,
    or safety found in sleeping sound, how England would be strong!

    But honour and dominion are not maintained so.
    They're only got by sword and shot, and this the Dutchmen know!

    Kipling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaye View Post
    Perhaps you should realise that books from authors like Austen or the Brönte sisters are about a thin upper crust of society which is portrayed in a very romantic manner.
    Just out of view is the great unwashed majority who haven't been much changed since then. They main difference is nowadays they have broadscreen tellies and wear hoodies...

    As to how recognisable the Austen / Brönte stories are; it has been said there are only seven original storylines possible. they are often described as series of conflicts: Man vs. Man, Man vs. Nature, Man against God, Man vs. Society, Man in the Middle, Man & Woman, Man vs. Himself. In the basic stories there are basic personalities and archetypes are timeless.
    a hag is a hag. She used to live in a gingerbread house and nowadays she is played by Catherine Tate...
    But, this is dark stuff K. Exceptional insights into the heart of man. Of course maddening as well. Twain said he'd like to dig up Austen and beat her over the skull with her shin bone. Painful reading at times.

    But if the parasols block your view, then, we've got Shakespeare to fall back on, who one writer said is the nearest to the eye of God on humanity. The relationship between Othello and Desdemona and notions of love and trust are all recognisable to the blokes here.

    But more gritty recognisable language is from Dostoyevsky onwards. The unamed man in Notes from Underground or the three brothers in Karamazov resemble much of our narratives.

    As the old programme said, turn off the TV and do something more interesting instead... one of the greatest gifts to your children is to introduce them to these writers who expand their understanding. Gives them the language to make sense of the absurd. Wonderful stuff K!
    "As we moved slowly through the outskirts of the town we passed row after row of little grey slum houses running at right angles to the embankment. At the back of one of the houses a young woman was kneeling on the stones, poking a stick up the leaden waste-pipe which ran from the sink inside and which I suppose was blocked. I had time to see everything about her - her sacking apron, her clumsy clogs, her arms reddened by the cold. She looked up as the train passed, and I was almost near enough to catch her eye." Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgs_bosun View Post
    Well as you should know by now, your mad waffle deserves no respect. There are intelligent people here trying to get the message through and you reply with subjective junk that is a million miles from the points raised.

    You can agree that religions are crackers but stop short at reasoning about your own delusion. We will continue the battle hoping that one day you will understand.

    The supernatural stories of jesus are myths, his philosophy was inadequate and there is no merit in trying to live your life in accordance with biblical babble. Better to worship nature and listen to the innate feelings that evolution has provided.
    Playground stuff HB. You really should no better.
    "As we moved slowly through the outskirts of the town we passed row after row of little grey slum houses running at right angles to the embankment. At the back of one of the houses a young woman was kneeling on the stones, poking a stick up the leaden waste-pipe which ran from the sink inside and which I suppose was blocked. I had time to see everything about her - her sacking apron, her clumsy clogs, her arms reddened by the cold. She looked up as the train passed, and I was almost near enough to catch her eye." Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybongo View Post
    Why - are we colouring in angels in the book this morning?
    Come on BB. Tell us what you're reading at the mo. What's gripping your heart and mind amigo?
    "As we moved slowly through the outskirts of the town we passed row after row of little grey slum houses running at right angles to the embankment. At the back of one of the houses a young woman was kneeling on the stones, poking a stick up the leaden waste-pipe which ran from the sink inside and which I suppose was blocked. I had time to see everything about her - her sacking apron, her clumsy clogs, her arms reddened by the cold. She looked up as the train passed, and I was almost near enough to catch her eye." Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    Come on BB. Tell us what you're reading at the mo. What's gripping your heart and mind amigo?
    At the moment (and fairly high up the list of things gripping me) is the perennial struggle to feed hungry mouths and find a better way of making a living! If it wasn't such a dull day in the office, I wouldn't be reading your posts (and that, BTW, is not a dig!).

    As an aside , but coupled to your comments about Shakespeare, I trust you enjoyed the Hollow Crown series? I thought it was excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybongo View Post
    At the moment (and fairly high up the list of things gripping me) is the perennial struggle to feed hungry mouths and find a better way of making a living! If it wasn't such a dull day in the office, I wouldn't be reading your posts (and that, BTW, is not a dig!).

    As an aside , but coupled to your comments about Shakespeare, I trust you enjoyed the Hollow Crown series? I thought it was excellent.
    Absolutely stunning.

    Hiddleston was breathtaking I thought...
    "As we moved slowly through the outskirts of the town we passed row after row of little grey slum houses running at right angles to the embankment. At the back of one of the houses a young woman was kneeling on the stones, poking a stick up the leaden waste-pipe which ran from the sink inside and which I suppose was blocked. I had time to see everything about her - her sacking apron, her clumsy clogs, her arms reddened by the cold. She looked up as the train passed, and I was almost near enough to catch her eye." Orwell, The Road to Wigan Pier

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    Absolutely stunning.

    Hiddleston was breathtaking I thought...
    To a man and woman the acting was superb.

    Anyway, enough of this frivolity and back to the serious fray………..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomShackerLacker View Post
    Playground stuff HB. You really should no better.

    I think that you have missed the points? Ho hum... No matter how infantile we go... It's a hopeless case chaps.

    An adult with children who has no concept of down to Earth reality is not responsible for his condition. I blame the cult that has robbed him of his faculties. Drunk with mind altering dogma and trapped within an imaginary world of philosophical nonsence...it's not his fault.

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