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    There is one on the A13 like that, first time around it as a passenger and freaked by driving anti clockwise!
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    [QUOTE=Balleh;4404232]
    Quote Originally Posted by vvaannmmaann View Post
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    Is that what we used to call the Magic Roundabout?

    If so, it's changed somewhat since '70 when I was at RMCS. That central reservation wasn't there; just lots of mini-roundabouts within a big one.

    It was very efficient.
    I reckon the reason why it is so efficient is because it scares the shit out of anyone approaching it... The adage "slow down when coming to a roundabout" takes on new meaning and is replaced with "stop and try to work out where the hell I'm going and which fecking lane should I take".

    But on the question of removing traffic lights from junctions I can see the method in this madness. Most people are taken by surprise with the absence of regulatory lights and on the basis of not wishing to have their beloved car damaged by another proceed delicately into the neutral ground beyond. It is quite amusing to watch cars debate whether their compatriots will 'give way' when they themselves inch forward.

    The only problem occurs around 'rush hour' when the selfish bastewards won't let you out.
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    [QUOTE=RearWords;4406494]
    Quote Originally Posted by Balleh View Post

    I reckon the reason why it is so efficient is because it scares the shit out of anyone approaching it... The adage "slow down when coming to a roundabout" takes on new meaning and is replaced with "stop and try to work out where the hell I'm going and which fecking lane should I take".

    But on the question of removing traffic lights from junctions I can see the method in this madness. Most people are taken by surprise with the absence of regulatory lights and on the basis of not wishing to have their beloved car damaged by another proceed delicately into the neutral ground beyond. It is quite amusing to watch cars debate whether their compatriots will 'give way' when they themselves inch forward.

    The only problem occurs around 'rush hour' when the selfish bastewards won't let you out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ugly View Post
    There is one on the A13 like that, first time around it as a passenger and freaked by driving anti clockwise!
    That's your fault! You should have recce it first rom all directions by bicycle. Poor drills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    That's your fault! You should have recce it first rom all directions by bicycle. Poor drills.
    I wasnt expecting a roundabout, on my map Essex ends at the M25 and it says here be dragons for Grays. I didnt know they had lecky let alone tarmac that far east!
    I should have sent Pathfinders in first to brass the joint up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    That's your fault! You should have recce it first rom all directions by bicycle. Poor drills.
    Fuck off! Why should I?
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    You can have signals with phases set on timers so priority goes to the main route and only changes when sufficient traffic is detected on the feeder routes, that or part time signals, but the TA Bleeps keep nicking the signs!
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    IMHO, the main problem with many light set-ups is that they were designed and implemented years ago. LAs and Highways seem to work on the old, fix them if necessary otherwise they're fine, system
    UK, generally, is crap at looking at innovating based on systems that work well in other countries. A few thoughts :-

    1. Lights on roundabouts are necessary at some times, rush hours for example. What the morons who install them seem to forget is that THEY ARE FUCKING ROUNDABOUTS.
    Put modern processors in them to juggle flows and when the flow drops to a pre-ordained level, switch the sodding things off and let the roundabout do what it was designed to do.
    2. "Normal" lights same thing and definitely off at night flashing ambers and Give Way signs a la BRD.
    3. Much more use of signs stopping lorries overtaking on short and/or steep stretches of road. WE've all been held up by the 1 mph differential, 2 mile overtake.
    4. Much more use of minimum speed lanes
    5. Adoption of the Dutch model urban idea, where suitable.
    and finally
    6. Public execution, in front of their families, for the two wheeled, Lycra-clad, pseudo green twats who think that road law does not apply to them, particularly, on pavements. And one way systems. And traffic lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PE4rocks View Post
    IMHO, the main problem with many light set-ups is that they were designed and implemented years ago. LAs and Highways seem to work on the old, fix them if necessary otherwise they're fine, system
    UK, generally, is crap at looking at innovating based on systems that work well in other countries. A few thoughts.......

    6. Public execution, in front of their families, for the two wheeled, Lycra-clad, pseudo green twats who think that road law does not apply to them, particularly, on pavements. And one way systems. And traffic lights.
    Thats the one thing that use to really grip my shit. I would regularly drive along the Clyde side every day on the way to work (Glasgow for those of you who have never heard of the mighty Clyde), and despite the whole entire length having a cycle path well away from the main road these tour de france retards insisted on driving on the roads anyway making rush hour traffic just that bit worse. Im not bad mouthing all cyclists, i myself am one, but i stick very rigidly to the rules of the road when im on my bike. I suspect that half of these mongs that held me up every day didnt even have a license and as such should take the bus or walk along with all the other plebians..
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    Ah the Magic Roundabout at Swindon - it's class, and works a treat. Only weird thing about it is you kinda drive the wrong way around the central roundabout...Me and a few mates once tried to get a full 360 around every one in one go....carsick wasn't the word :P

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