ARmy Rumour SErvice

I feel like the reverse of the conspiracy types. Mainly I wonder if the powers that be leak the odd bits and bobs to keep the pot simmering. By its very nature the news is vague which is fair enough. The anniversary of Bin Laden's death seems to have passed very quietly, no spontaneous demos, in fact the whole thing has passed pretty much unremarked. I am sure that the religion of peace has not given up the struggle, and I feel pretty sure there may well be another mass killing of one sort or another. I am equally sure that it will be entirely different to the towers, or Bombay massacre, if it happens during the Olympics it will be something unexpected and the security/intelligence world will be caught flat footed.

Meanwhile the message is reinforced, 'They haven't gone away' and ever more intrusive counter-measures can be expected on the back of this.

Originally Posted by duckieone

Whats the weather in Yemen like this time of year?

Apparently chance of thunder storms today

How ironic!

Kidnappings of westerns for crimal profit apparently continue, AQAP clearly still happily on their little way.

How long before the US gets fed up and believes drone strikes are no solving it.

Or have we all lost the will (and cash) for boots on the ground? (Assuming Sana'a would even allow a presence).

I think this only goes to prove what berks they are for the most part. Still fixated on aeroplanes when they could poison a reservoir or knock out chunks of infrastructure with impunity. Truck bomb in the Blackwall Tunnel? Rat Poison in the reservoir? Brassing-up some little village somewhere in a (all together now!) Mumbai-style attack to show that nobody anywhere is safe?

No, fuck all that. Just wanna blow up planes despite the fact that they have the strongest security of all. Whatever happened to attack the enemy where he's weakest?

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Mumbai-style attack to show that nobody anywhere is safe?

Mumbai style attack ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Hh

But seriously, why should the jihadis be different from us? That's all we're apparently interested in kitting up to play.

Why shouldn't they? I mean they're human, and they want to feel big, important and shouty.

Boring people look at quietly blowing up power stations (or professionals, PIRA was going to do that in the early 1990s IIRR).

If I want to get an eternal love-in, surely I need to do something that'll attract the kuffar old bill wearing balaclavas.

Rubber dighny rapids bro!

(Sorry mate you make a fair and most insightful point, but I am sooooo fed up of the MSA, as I shall henceforward refer to it in a sort of "Blackadder/MacBeth" way).

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

I think this only goes to prove what berks they are for the most part. Still fixated on aeroplanes when they could poison a reservoir or knock out chunks of infrastructure with impunity. Truck bomb in the Blackwall Tunnel? Rat Poison in the reservoir? Brassing-up some little village somewhere in a (all together now!) Mumbai-style attack to show that nobody anywhere is safe?

No, fuck all that. Just wanna blow up planes despite the fact that they have the strongest security of all. Whatever happened to attack the enemy where he's weakest?

I refer you to my post above.

A few years ago, after they blew up the Staples Corner flyover in London, a friend and I were working out the best way to bollox up London. Bearing in mind there was no loss of life, the traffic congestion, and loss of revenue went on for years. We reckoned a good quality bomb in the Blackwall tunnel, main and underground junctions taken out round Clapham, and a couple of bridges, say Kew and Chelsea. Do it late at night with plenty of warning given. Hopefully no loss of life and the embuggeration factor would have lasted for years.

As you say Pigshyt, the effect of attacking say Edinburgh, or Carlisle, would probably catch the security world by suprise. Bit like conjuring tricks, everybody's watching for plane bombs, when a cruise liner/oil tanker rams the docks in New York, or Dover. Be interesting to see the response to that, you can't really sink a ship full of people or oil, and a liquid gas tanker, run into that WWII liberty ship in the Thames would make a very large bang, wipe out large portions of Essex and be different.

Originally Posted by Boumer

(Sorry mate you make a fair and most insightful point, but I am sooooo fed up of the MSA, as I shall henceforward refer to it in a sort of "Blackadder/MacBeth" way).

It's not a necessary phrase in any way. I just enjoy taking the piss out of it. The way some people go on, you'd think that was the first time anyone had shot up a town. In fact, you might as well go back to old General Dyer and call it an 'Amritsar-style attack.'

Originally Posted by Boumer

Concept is to blow out a window and bring the plane down.

I believe, though I am not a scientist, normal clothing will not impeed the functioning of the device.

Bit more than the window it would seem?



Double Jack Daniels all round at Langley today I'd say?

Originally Posted by TheIronDuke

Bit more than the window it would seem?



Double Jack Daniels all round at Langley today I'd say?

Deffo!

I believe the MO of the previous shoe or underpant IED (and probably the liquid bomb plot too) was to pop the window, this is intended to lead to depressurisation of the airplane and (they hope) loss of the airframe with all the persons aboard.

('In the name of Allah the most merciful, the most compassionate', never quite understood that, but there we go).

They previously tried a IED device concealed in printer cartridges, which all though discovered Anwar Al-Awlaki was quite cheerful about as he pointed the relative cost of the attack versus the defence was in the jihadists favour.

and thank you Pigshyt, just spat my coffee out. I shall try to get that into a conversation now (I fear it would be lost on a lot of my less historically minded colleagues)

It's not a necessary phrase in any way. I just enjoy taking the piss out of it. The way some people go on, you'd think that was the first time anyone had shot up a town. In fact, you might as well go back to old General Dyer and call it an 'Amritsar-style attack.'