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Originally Posted by AIR FILTER

Looks as if you were short changed pal Or more accurately were "never there" to post that comment.

General Sir Peter Edgar de la Cour de la Billière, KCB, KBE, DSO, MC & Bar has stated on record that he himself had nine injections whilst in theatre.. I shit you not.

What ever the cause is, it is hitting veterans at random and with various degrees of severity..... Even H.M.G would not deny that.

You are really a very silly person, you do not take an inoculation (other than the old lump of sugar for polio) they are injected.

I was not short changed I had then all and then a damn sight more in 1993 along with 9 months of Doxycyclin. No ill effects to date.

Funny that illness tends to hit randomly as well. The effects of 10 years pissing it up in Germany are, at least, hinted at, in the report you have not read.

Originally Posted by tiny_lewis

Nice selective responses, AIR FILTER....

iirc NAPS was the only tablet that was issued during GW1. What has that got to do with injections? Where is DLB on record as having had 9 injections, and does his substantiated medical record confirm this, together with what they were?

1. You forgot Anti Malaria tablets as well as the Biological Agent Treatment Sets (B.A.T.S tablets.) so what chance would you have in remembering the names of the multiple injections?

2 Sir Peter is quoted as having 9 injections on page 15 of the The Rt Hon The Lord Lloyd of Berwick Inquiry.

Link ... http://www.lloyd-gwii.com/admin/Mana...loydReport.pdf

You didn't think i was making all this up did you?

Originally Posted by dingerr

GWS is similar to PTSD in that a large majority of the so called sufferers are bluffing cunts hoping to hitch a ride on a compensation and charity gravy train.

Whist I agree, in small part, with mr. Snakey's observations on your post, I also tend to agree in larger part with the compensation gravy train. So many, of the so called GWS sufferers appear to be suffering from nothing other than life in general, when that life goes a bit wrong, get the claim in.

Originally Posted by AIR FILTER

1. You forgot Anti Malaria tablets as well as the Biological Agent Treatment Sets (B.A.T.S tablets.) so what chance would you have in remembering the names of the multiple injections?

2 Sir Peter is quoted as having 9 injections on page 15 of the The Rt Hon The Lord Lloyd of Berwick Inquiry.

Link ... http://www.lloyd-gwii.com/admin/Mana...loydReport.pdf

You didn't think i was making all this up did you?

Anti-Malarial!!!!! What planet are you living on, did you actually serve in GW1 and if so where?

I had about 9 injections, fairly normal given the usual required and a few more for Anthrax, Plague and Whooping Cough. Some did get ill for about 24 hours after, same with any set of inoculations.

Originally Posted by Mr_Snakey

I don't think that is helpful mate. How can you substantiate that?

Isn't this just the sort of culture described in the research that prevents people seeking help?

Or are you trolling?

Are you trying to intimate every case of PTSD is genuine?

It bloody well annoys me because it detracts from genuine sufferers.

Originally Posted by AIR FILTER

1. You forgot Anti Malaria tablets as well as the Biological Agent Treatment Sets (B.A.T.S tablets.) so what chance would you have in remembering the names of the multiple injections?

The clue to BATS is in the name...Biological Agent Treatment Set. They were a powerful broad-spectrum antibiotic, to be taken in the event of a confirmed Bio attack - not as a prophylactic.


The best King's College could come up with was that there might have been a link between some of the innoculations being taken together, but nothing that could be medically proven by any trials carried out before or after the event (so in terms of "what could the MoD have done differently - not a lot). Equally, they suggest that other non-medical factors might have come into play - such as the mental stress of being exposed to the possibility of being gassed, or the subsequent media coverage that suggested all might not be well with their health.

I spent several weeks taking NAPS. They had some funny effects for sure - including weird dreams and one bloke swamping himself in an O Gp - but given the threat from chemical weaposn was very real at the time, I'd have taken a lifetime's worth of IBS rather than be twitching on the floor with a lethal dose of G nerve kicking round my system...

Originally Posted by dingerr

Are you trying to intimate every case of PTSD is genuine?

It bloody well annoys me because it detracts from genuine sufferers.

So you cannot back up your claim then? You dodge my question and ask one of your own to boot! Where do I intimate that every claim is genuine? Have you read the doc? Or are you on the meths?

Me? I don't have the merest inkling of the ratio of genuine cases and false compo claims. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

My concern is with getting the best care to those who need it, I've not said anything different.

Originally Posted by Mr_Snakey

So you cannot back up your claim then? You dodge my question and ask one of your own to boot! Where do I intimate that every claim is genuine? Have you read the doc? Or are you on the meths?

Me? I don't have the merest inkling of the ratio of genuine cases and false compo claims. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

My concern is with getting the best care to those who need it, I've not said anything different.

I wasn't referring to the doc. My comment wasn't in context with yours previously. It was a stand alone post and I stand by it. There are a lot of bluffing cunts out there.

I'm the same as you with wanting genuinely injured people (mentally or physically) properly treated. Having to deal with bluffing cunts wastes resources, cash and time. It's hardly in line with selfless committment.