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I blame Thatcher for 9/11 & 7/7. I also blame Chelsea for pretty much everything

What position in the team does she play

I dont know what this blaming chelsea fc is all about? Chelsea also got the blame for the heysel deaths as well. why does everyone want to blame the chelsea fans for? it was the scousers trying to sneak in to the stadium that caused the problem for the police. The police as ive mentioned before just couldn`t cope.

Originally Posted by StickyEnd

Originally Posted by MSB

As for Stickyend, the greatest compo claims were made by the Policemen, who suffered trauma through being forced to see the results of their inaction, poor lambs. Crowds act as Crowds will, lack of control, poor stadium design and a refusal to delay kick off were three of the major factors involved. But then you'd know that. If you had bothered to educate yourself.

LOL! Everyone's fault but the fuckers who did the crushing. Your attitude makes me ashamed (a bit) of my Liverpool heritage.

I have changed my mind. Having watched a fair few hours of coverage, I think it was a shambles by those responsible for organising the event. It also looks as though a cover-up may have happened (although I consider a series of cock-ups as more likely).

Therefore I apologise for my previous flippant statements.

Originally Posted by CAARPS

I blame Thatcher for 9/11 & 7/7. I also blame Chelsea for pretty much everything

she just needs to hurry up and die and take cameron and clegg with her,

Originally Posted by SuperbRifleman1966

I dont know what this blaming chelsea fc is all about? Chelsea also got the blame for the heysel deaths as well. why does everyone want to blame the chelsea fans for? it was the scousers trying to sneak in to the stadium that caused the problem for the police. The police as ive mentioned before just couldn`t cope.

Oh Dear

Originally Posted by ugly

Well this thread has been interesting,
Still its been interesting!

Interesting indeed, not only for the fact that a view that was Pushed out within minutes of the disaster happening has perpetuated and grown over the intervening years.

For those who wish to read more I would recommend this (probably not for some though )

The Media View

The reporters at the ground knew there were “simply too many fans at oneend of the ground” but why this happened was an unanswered question.Shortly after the St John’s ambulance arrived on the pitch, the press weregiven a possible explanation. Graham Mackrell, SWFC’s Secretary and Safety Officer, told media sourcesthat a gate had been forced open and supporters had rushed in. The press then interviewed the FA’s Chief Executive, Graham Kelly, aboutthis allegation, and the possibility of “unauthorised entries” to the stadiumwas added to the emerging story. By 4:00pm the reported cause of the Disaster was as follows: “At ten tothree there was a surge of fans at the Leppings Lane End of the ground.The surge composed of about 500 Liverpool fans and the police say thata gate was forced and that led to a crush in the terracing area.’’This media explanation for the Disaster was relayed to millions, effectivelyforming the public perception and was based on what Lord JusticeStuart-Smith, in his later report, called “a disgraceful lie.”

Originally Posted by Arters

Well said, Ugly.

The problem with emotive subjects like this, is that it is highly unlikely that anyone's
mind can be changed by reasoned debate, I agree with you that parts of this have
been very interesting and I, for one, have learnt quite a lot about the subject.

Should we start a debate on the Icing of Ambassador Aircraft Wings in the long
gone Munich Airport?

Or even the 22 Il Grande Torino Players lost in an Aircrash 62 Years ago?

My opinion has been changed.