ARmy Rumour SErvice

**Manley** · 07-03-2012, 15:10

Originally Posted by Steven

Islam says everything is the will of Allah so nothing is your fault, women are chattels and lower class of being so you don't have to listen to your mum/wife/etc, anyone who is not exactly like you ie poofs/liberals/christians/add your own are evil or at best misguided so you can do what you like to them with no karmic come back, if you follow the simple easily understood rules then you are a "good person" and nothing that happens is your fault (see point 1).

For a slave/disenfranchised poor black whats not to like about all that?

So that by those lights, both Christians and Muslims are all slaves, slaves of their particular God, the master tell the slave what to do and similarly God tell his creation what to do...or else.

It,s all bollocks as far as I,m concerned, and I,m prepared to give God if there is one, an argument about having Christianity forced on me as a child by black clad priests who threatened me with damnation for playing with myself etc, while they kiddie fiddled away to their hearts content...........not with Moi I hasten to add.

**smartascarrots** · 07-03-2012, 15:13

Originally Posted by rockpile

The diversity courses that I have attended (to cleanse my mind) seem to suggest that Islam stands for equality. Which is why it appealed to the Untouchables in India and if that it is true then slaves would probably go for equality.

That seems about right. IIRC the Koran is the only holy book of a major religion that specifically talks about the equality of all men of the faith under God regardless of race, nationality etc.

I guess particularly in the heady days of the US civil rights movement, that would be appealing to someone who wasn't welcomed in the local church.

**samain11** · 07-05-2012, 10:34

Originally Posted by SuperbRifleman1966

One of the reasons the militant and angry blacks become muslim is to rebel against the White majority society.

Your insight is simply stunning in its simplicity.

**samain11** · 07-05-2012, 10:54

Originally Posted by Pyianno

Clearly you've not read Thomas Thistlewood's diaries.

Good point, but "Derby's dose" was a lot less permanent than the routine castration of male slaves. The losses on the trans-saharan route could be as high as 90% ...incredibely. It is not a comfortable place to be..that is, to be arguing the relative merits of slave-owning societies, but slave populations survived into more enlightened times in the west, but not the middle east.
Rebecca Hardin Davies compared conditions for white mill workers, and plantation slaves and I do not exaggerate when I say that mill conditions were generally worse. Slavery takes many forms.

**JoeCivvie** · 07-05-2012, 11:01

Well, on the one hand you have a bunch of violent, chauvinistic misogynists who don't believe anything is their fault and on the other hand you have a bunch of violent, chauvinistic misogynists who don't believe anything is their fault - it's a bit of a no-brainer really.

**sunnoficarus** · 07-05-2012, 11:07

Look up PRISLAM and you'll get yiur answer.

"...We should be less concerned in America about moderate Muslims and more concerned about the radicalizing influence of Prislam..."

**alib** · 07-05-2012, 11:18

It's a simple and comforting religion that just demands submission and abeyance of well codified law, none of this turning of the cheek, blessed are the meek, God being three blokes palava. It's nastier variants are also bankrolled by a shit load of Gulf Kingship cash.

**velcrostripes** · 07-05-2012, 11:50

Islam may be the religion of choice amongst a few black ex cons , but not amongst the general black population .

According to The Black Christian Directory , 68% of the black population regularly attend church in this country .

**WolvoExPunk** · 07-05-2012, 12:04

Ok, I sincerely apologise for all the slaves I have ever owned, captured or traded. In other words, NONE. Now Mr Jamaincan PM, please go and get your apologies for all current slave owners and traders.

(We know you won't)

**Democritus** · 07-05-2012, 12:14

Originally Posted by alib

It's a simple and comforting religion that just demands submission and abeyance of well codified law, none of this turning of the cheek, blessed are the meek, God being three blokes palava. It's nastier variants are also bankrolled by a shit load of Gulf Kingship cash.

Abeyance of its own laws is the last thing it demands ('obedience to' is presumably what you meant). Agree with the rest of it, though.