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Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

I was thinking how good that would be. And then I realised that that would only be the next stage. After it was 'allowed but not compelled' people would start suing or demanding the prosecution of those vicars, mullahs, rabbis etc who refused to carry them out. There will be picket lines, banners etc. Eventually every one will just give in to them. People who hold out will be publicly vilified as bigots.

Then the demands will start to do away with the terms 'husband' and 'wife' on official documents. Fairness will again be invoked. There is no end to it; there will always be another and another equality demanded. Eventually we will have a society that frenziedly celebrates diversity whilst refusing to acknowledge that any differences exist of any kind whatsoever.

You play Chess don't you?

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Along with politics, finance, journalism, personal relationships....

Not sure why it's necessary to single out religion for vilification over a common human characteristic.

Are you saying that, on ARRSE, people don't rail on about politicians, bankers, and journalists? Have you been visiting the same site I have?

Originally Posted by Core Strife

I wouldnt say that the majority of the population are homophobic, most just abide with it.

The only ones who seem to be vehemently against it are these extremist "sharia-rule-4-UK" muslims who campaign against them.

It's not just extremist Muslims responsible for vicious campaigns against homosexuality. There are examples across many religions. For example, the christian anti defamation commission. According to these guys, being gay and serving in the military is an evil act. Don't pigeon hole Islam as the 'only ones', because they are not.

Originally Posted by jarrod248

Archbishop Sentamu's warning on plan to let gays 'marry' in church: they should not trump rights of clerics | Mail Online
I could never understand the pretend marriages that are civil partnerships. I do like this chap and his stance on many things but in my mind a marriage is done in a church unless you prefer a lesser service. A vow before God not before a registrar. I don't personally want to get married but that may change. I'm sure it shouldn't take legislation to alter this and the Church should be happy of the income.

"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"

think about it..

Originally Posted by Rox101

It's not just extremist Muslims responsible for vicious campaigns against homosexuality. There are examples across many religions. For example, the christian anti defamation commission. According to these guys, being gay and serving in the military is an evil act. Don't pigeon hole Islam as the 'only ones', because they are not.

That's American. Why do so many UK campaigners, be it for abortion rights, gay rights, black rights or whatever, look to the Americas in search of an enemy? Do you really long for their vicious, Manichaean, violent and sectarian politics to be visited upon is too, so that you can aggrandise yourself by opposing a ferocious enemy?

Why not come up with a cruel and fierce British enemy to fight? Or do you shy from that, knowing it would mean you have to take on fanatic Islam, and would come very badly unstuck? British Christians lack the ferocity which you long to oppose.

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

Why not come up with a cruel and fierce British enemy to fight? Or do you shy from that, knowing it would mean you have to take on fanatic Islam, and would come very badly unstuck? British Christians lack the ferocity which you long to oppose.

We will, eventually, all end up fighting 'fanatic Islam' - reckon the 3rd World War will be sectarian, and it'll be Islam V the Rest.

Which, of course, has Jack Shit to do with the original post and this thread.

Originally Posted by Pigshyt_Freeman

That's American. Why do so many UK campaigners, be it for abortion rights, gay rights, black rights or whatever, look to the Americas in search of an enemy? Do you really long for their vicious, Manichaean, violent and sectarian politics to be visited upon is too, so that you can aggrandise yourself by opposing a ferocious enemy?

Why not come up with a cruel and fierce British enemy to fight? Or do you shy from that, knowing it would mean you have to take on fanatic Islam, and would come very badly unstuck? British Christians lack the ferocity which you long to oppose.

How about the BNP? Not that I'm in the mood to fight a 'cruel and fierce British enemy' (I've taken my Lycra body suite and cape off for the night). I mean, that's a political party that think homosexuality should be returned the closet and that gays are 'AIDS monkeys'. My point was that extremist views about how wrong homosexuality is span all aspects of society and organised religions, so if you're going to make that point then it's important to state exactly that and not just promote the narrow minded idea that is always the 'crazy muslims'.

Originally Posted by Rox101

How about the BNP? Not that I'm in the mood to fight a 'cruel and fierce British enemy' (I've taken my Lycra body suite and cape off for the night). I mean, that's a political party that think homosexuality should be returned the closet and that gays are 'AIDS monkeys'. My point was that extremist views about how wrong homosexuality is span all aspects of society and organised religions, so if you're going to make that point then it's important to state exactly that and not just promote the narrow minded idea that is always the 'crazy muslims'.

How about, no the BNP dont think gays are aids monkeys so don't talk bollocks to try to distract from the fact the gayers in this country get outraged over christians but are a bit quiet about Islam. I can't think why that would be.