It won't solve the immediate problems but the idea for the future would require all would be drivers to exist on two wheels (not push bikes) for at least two years before they could be considered as a learner with four wheeled vehicles. I started on two wheels mainly because I could not afford four wheels but I like to think I am a better driver because of it. With only their own clothing as protection from the road they soon learn to read the road ahead (and behind and around). Darwinism will sort out those suitable to go forward into cars.
Learner driving should include skid pan tests, a log book forlearners for single carriageway/dual cariageway/night driving/urban driving/rural driving. On passing a test of some 26 miles they would then require assisted and examined motorway driving.

Driving under the influence/without insurance/ - immediate ban and, if repeated, prison sentence with escorted work in A & E departments. Driving without a full licence immediate custody and escorted work in A & E departments. Sentences of months not just days and multiple offences given consecutive sentences.

This would cost a lot of money and time so perhaps instead we could just retro fit every car with a 24" steel spike sticking up from the centre of the steering wheel.

Originally Posted by Arnie013

Eric. Thems be called "daytime running lights" they're their to "see and be seen" as such, just like SOs for driving green fleet says your meant to have your lights on at all times.

No lots of people now drive around in perfect conditions with Four lights on at the front. Spot or Fogs PLUS headlights. There is no point to it.

I remember the days when it was OK to drive around built up areas with sidelights only.

Can someone please tell me how you communicate to the driver behind you that his/her lights on to bright and they are dazzling you?

Originally Posted by RoofRat

I think you'll find you have two types of auxilliary lights on a car,roundy ones (driving,or spotlights),and squarey oblongy ones (fog lights) low down,neither of which should be capable of being on without your headlights being on.

If your headlights are on during the day,fine just don't put the driving,or foglights on,unless you're driving in poor visibility as you will be breaking the law,clearer?

Trouble is though that the police seem not to bother enforcing that law.

West point. I'm aware too many people drive round with their fog lights on but the guy asked what these new fangled lights are and they're daytime running lights. So I see your "no" and raise you a yes! ;)

Originally Posted by Westpoint

Can someone please tell me how you communicate to the driver behind you that his/her lights on to bright and they are dazzling you?

Raise hand, form an 'O' shape with the hand and move up and down rapidly.

Originally Posted by Arnie013

West point. I'm aware too many people drive round with their fog lights on but the guy asked what these new fangled lights are and they're daytime running lights. So I see your "no" and raise you a yes! ;)

Maybe he has noticed these new "cornering" spot lights as well.

Originally Posted by Westpoint

Can someone please tell me how you communicate to the driver behind you that his/her lights on to bright and they are dazzling you?

Write "lights on full" on a house-brick & throw it to them.

Originally Posted by re-stilly

Raise hand, form an 'O' shape with the hand and move up and down rapidly.

And as if by magic ,Plod will then turn up and nick you for making "gestures". Dazzling driver carries on, sniggering.

Originally Posted by Arnie013

West point. I'm aware too many people drive round with their fog lights on but the guy asked what these new fangled lights are and they're daytime running lights. So I see your "no" and raise you a yes! ;)

And,daytime running lights are not what he is talking about. So I see your yes,and raise you two no's.