Thread: Provo ID's himself on U75

Originally Posted by Sabre

I Am not going to go onto your forum to enter this debate, as i am sure the questions and points i have will no doubt also be what others are thinking on here,
Also one of the main reason i will not go onto your site to debate this is i Publically refuse to increase your web site hit rate.

But did you not state you would debate with me any where?
You all know my e-mail addy.
Not one, not fuckin one of you have saw fit to engage me by e-mail.
Fucking shitebags.

Originally Posted by Dilzybhoy

Originally Posted by DozyBint

I hadn't realised that I'd been quoted on Dilzybhoy's site. I have commented thus, to ensure a correct interpretation of the quote.

1. You on the other hand, I hadn't noticed tbh. I haven't really been giving it much attention.
2. I will engage you in argument if your willing to refrain from your friend's tactics of mindless moronic and childish abuse.
3. So far on my forum, that I set up solely for your benefit, out of the goodness of my heart, I have had such erudite comments as "* off" and suchlike childishness.
4. As I say I haven't been giving it that much attention and so I missed your journal comments. I apologise.
But here I am. (I can do no other )

1. You must have noticed my post to have quoted it in the first place.
2. Why do you assume that anyone on this site is my friend? I have never met anyone on this site, nor on this thread have I written in direct support of anyone else's arguments. I don't agree with a lot of the beliefs expressed on this site and rarely, if ever, resort to ":mindless moronic and childish abuse." With this in mind I would like an apology for the implication that I have levelled any such abuse against you. I prefer open and intellectual debate, subscribing as I do to Voltaire's principle of free speech.
3. Not from me you haven't.
4. Believe me when I say I haven't been waiting with bated breath for a response (I've not visited your site since posting my comment). I originally visited your site to see what all the fuss was about, not to post, but I don't like my words being selectively quoted, thus I set the record straight.

Listen here chummy.

I have aid i dont have to result to name calling to get my point across, however if you decide to it will only go to belittle the point of your argument might put across.

So lets talk as sensible human beings shall we.

I will have you know i not racist i was mearly asking a question on someone who holds such strong beliefs that the British should pull out of NI, and has already prejudged the British forces that you choose to live under there protective umbrella, I know for a fact with my self, If my politics were of such a strong belief then family or no family, i would move.

I am not talking about when you were younger as in under the age of 16, But when you turned 18 you are then classed as an adult, and up to you to make your choices in life.
So this is not a dig at your family iun anyway, You have stated you have a cousin in Ballymena, fine , cool, why not move over to NI and join the fight it not exactly a million miles away from scotland is it.

If you describe yourself as a true patriot as what you would like us all to believe you are, then if you have a wife and son etc... no doubt they would be of a similar belief to you , so taking them over wouldnt be a problem

Originally Posted by DozyBint

Originally Posted by Dilzybhoy

Originally Posted by DozyBint

I hadn't realised that I'd been quoted on Dilzybhoy's site. I have commented thus, to ensure a correct interpretation of the quote.

1. You on the other hand, I hadn't noticed tbh. I haven't really been giving it much attention.
2. I will engage you in argument if your willing to refrain from your friend's tactics of mindless moronic and childish abuse.
3. So far on my forum, that I set up solely for your benefit, out of the goodness of my heart, I have had such erudite comments as "* off" and suchlike childishness.
4. As I say I haven't been giving it that much attention and so I missed your journal comments. I apologise.
But here I am. (I can do no other )

1. You must have noticed my post to have quoted it in the first place.
2. Why do you assume that anyone on this site is my friend? I have never met anyone on this site, nor on this thread have I written in direct support of anyone else's arguments. I don't agree with a lot of the beliefs expressed on this site and rarely, if ever, resort to ":mindless moronic and childish abuse." With this in mind I would like an apology for the implication that I have levelled any such abuse against you. I prefer open and intellectual debate, subscribing as I do to Voltaire's principle of free speech.
3. Not from me you haven't.
4. Believe me when I say I haven't been waiting with bated breath for a response (I've not visited your site since posting my comment). I originally visited your site to see what all the fuss was about, not to post, but I don't like my words being selectively quoted, thus I set the record straight.

I salute you! Fair do's
I'll admit I was deliberately selective when quoting you 'cos I couldn't resist. It was facetious not malicious.
On your first post, I was talking about your post in my journal, that I hadn't noticed. If you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by Sabre

Listen here chummy.

I have aid i dont have to result to name calling to get my point across, however if you decide to it will only go to belittle the point of your argument might put across.

So lets talk as sensible human beings shall we.

I will have you know i not racist i was mearly asking a question on someone who holds such strong beliefs that the British should pull out of NI, and has already prejudged the British forces that you choose to live under there protective umbrella, I know for a fact with my self, If my politics were of such a strong belief then family or no family, i would move.

I am not talking about when you were younger as in under the age of 16, But when you turned 18 you are then classed as an adult, and up to you to make your choices in life.
So this is not a dig at your family iun anyway, You have stated you have a cousin in Ballymena, fine , cool, why not move over to NI and join the fight it not exactly a million miles away from scotland is it.

If you describe yourself as a true patriot as what you would like us all to believe you are, then if you have a wife and son etc... no doubt they would be of a similar belief to you , so taking them over wouldnt be a problem

I'll ask you to read over exactly what you said and consider the context.
If after that then...
I don't think there's any hope.
Are you suggesting that I, as a citizen of the UK, am morally barred from agitating for justice in another part of the UK?
Think about what your saying
'Cos if your saying what I think your saying then me and you are singing from the same songsheet.
i.e Brits out!!!

Nope you have misread the message i was trying to put across.
I am also not saying that you should not have an opinion of what goes onto in this country, but more of trying to explain yourself so i can understand where your politics come from.

I believe the Brits should stay there, they had the chance to hold a referendum, and it was decided to stay British, the people voted and have spoken, so surely as a member of the UK, you should respect there beliefs.

Originally Posted by Sabre

Nope you have misread the message i was trying to put across.
I am also not saying that you should not have an opinion of what goes onto in this country, but more of trying to explain yourself so i can understand where your politics come from.

I believe the Brits should stay there, they had the chance to hold a referendum, and it was decided to stay British, the people voted and have spoken, so surely as a member of the UK, you should respect there beliefs.

No sorry, the people spoke before partition. They voted for a free United Ireland. SF won 70 odd seats out of 103 or something like that. I'll get the exact figures if you want me to.
As far as I know partition was not on the manifesto of the aforsaid elected members
So think about this with an open mind if you can...
Since then people in Ireland have been fighting to uphold the democratic will of the people.
As long as Ireland holds one person willing to bear arms for a united republic, they have my unconditional support.

yes please i would like the facts and figures. But even you must agree that going about this through violence, such as bombing of innocents suchas Omagh, or even the enniskillen rememberance day bombings, is not the way to achieve this. And while such actions are going on the political partys over there will not get anywhere. The gun to the ballot doesnt work. You know as well as i do that the main message on what was being as you put 'Fought for' and has now turned into a big money making scheme.

As long as Ireland holds one person willing to bear arms for a united republic, they have my unconditional support.

So this means you approve of this violence, and the maiming and killing on cold blood of people?

here
Obviously I don't approve of violence in the way you describe. At least I've got the honesty to say it.
Did you approve of Bloody Sunday???

there will always be much speculation aboutbloody sunday, and unfortunatly we will never know the full truth about it.
Such specualtion that even mcguiness firing the first shots.
I for one dont believe trained solidiers would go firing at people unless some one had fired at the first!

And you have just contridicted your self

Quote:
As long as Ireland holds one person willing to bear arms for a united republic, they have my unconditional support.

So this means you approve of this violence, and the maiming and killing on cold blood of people?

Obviously I don't approve of violence in the way you describe. At least I've got the honesty to say it.


So in what way do you say , take arms for the struggle, but dont shoot anyone??
Dont blow up kids in parks, , nail bomb innocents out shopping, i would like to know!

Do I really need to spell it out for you?
Jesus H christ!!
They have my unconditional support to bear arms.
No contradiction. As for Omagh, carried by an organisation whom I personally felt as detrimental to the cause... speaks for itself.
Enniskillin was for me the turning point. It was the time that I began to realise that it was all just...
pish.
At the end of the day we still have to address the fact that the island of Ireland is a fuckin nation!!
So then, we are all agreed, United Republic!!

Still being a dullard I see zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

No we are not agreed.

You say they have a right to bear arms, yet if they do this they do become murders, Just because some one is of a different religion doesnt mean they have to die, just for trying to survive in a country where the few narrow minded people think they are fighting for every one, when really even the majority of those in the south whom they are fighting for doesnt even want them.

So yes please spell it out, let us all hear exactly where you stand

You say enniskillin was a turning point for you, you started to realise it was all pish, Bombing of old war vetrans who had gone the war memorial to remeber there fallen mates, so how was this pish for you?? Turning point in whatway, to go over and start your thinking yeah this is great, they are fighting for a cause so sod the innocents they are all targets??

I think all terrorist are cowards, no matter what side they are fighting for , in NI, or else where abroad, And i think the people who support them as you do, have fallen for a so called romantic image of a freedom fighter. When you have really been duped!

Originally Posted by Sabre

No we are not agreed.

You say they have a right to bear arms, yet if they do this they do become murders, Just because some one is of a different religion doesnt mean they have to die, just for trying to survive in a country where the few narrow minded people think they are fighting for every one, when really even the majority of those in the south whom they are fighting for doesnt even want them.

So yes please spell it out, let us all hear exactly where you stand

You say enniskillin was a turning point for you, you started to realise it was all pish, Bombing of old war vetrans who had gone the war memorial to remeber there fallen mates, so how was this pish for you?? Turning point in whatway, to go over and start your thinking yeah this is great, they are fighting for a cause so sod the innocents they are all targets??

I think all terrorist are cowards, no matter what side they are fighting for , in NI, or else where abroad, And i think the people who support them as you do, have fallen for a so called romantic image of a freedom fighter. When you have really been duped!

Different religion?? Don't you fucken dare lecture me. The republican movement has never been sectarian. It's never been about religion.
Fuck sake when it suits yir suits the ra where all commies an infidels!!!
FFS.
A coward would starve himself to death?
Was he looking for to dip his beak in some parallel universe?
How many Englishmen have done the same???
Fucktards need not reply

Originally Posted by Dilzybhoy

Different religion?? Don't you fucken dare lecture me. The republican movement has never been sectarian. It's never been about religion.
* sake when it suits yir suits the ra where all commies an infidels!!!
FFS.
A coward would starve himself to death?
Was he looking for to dip his beak in some parallel universe?
How many Englishmen have done the same???
Fucktards need not reply

Ha ha not only the sites biggest bore but stupid as well.