I think when push comes to shove , most people will vote this govt out , rather than to vote the Tories in . I cannot understand why the Tories are not being radical .If they promised a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty , it would take the wind of UKIP's sails altogether.If they said they would seriously consider withdrawing from the 1954 Hague Convention on Refugees it would completely take the wind out of the BNP.If they told the sceptics that we are no longer their poodles and are pulling out of Afghan , even half the Left would vote for them. If they then promised to dismantle the entire edifice of Quangos , the Big Brother state , petty and unnecessary regulation and environmental stealth taxes , most of middle England would vote for them. Sadly , none of the above will happen.Conservative overall majority of about 30 , because a lot of Lib dems will lose their seats too.

Originally Posted by velcrostripes

I think when push comes to shove , most people will vote this govt out , rather than to vote the Tories in . I cannot understand why the Tories are not being radical .If they promised a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty , it would take the wind of UKIP's sails altogether.If they said they would seriously consider withdrawing from the 1954 Hague Convention on Refugees it would completely take the wind out of the BNP.If they told the sceptics that we are no longer their poodles and are pulling out of Afghan , even half the Left would vote for them. If they then promised to dismantle the entire edifice of Quangos , the Big Brother state , petty and unnecessary regulation and environmental stealth taxes , most of middle England would vote for them. Sadly , none of the above will happen.Conservative overall majority of about 30 , because a lot of Lib dems will lose their seats too.

Thing with most/all of those points.. All the parties that you will see govern this nation in your lifetime (without recourse to a putsch) agree on them. Your voting choice it like it or be a number scribed alongside the words "lost deposit" on a tally. Yeah, maybe we will see a couple of seats go to 'minor' parties this time. Although I'd hazard they may not be the fringe parties that the bulk of Arrsers "wouldn't mind" getting a rattle.

The bulk of the people will mark their ballot 'None of the above' :D

No.9

I'm from mining stock and I'll never vote Tory as long as I have a hole in my arse but I keep having nightmares that the Tories might win. Then I see George Osbourn's odious visage and get some comfort from thinking that the man is such an utter c0ck that there's no way they'll get in.

Labour need a smaller percentage of the vote than the Conservatives. I reckon it'll either be a hung parliament, in which case the incumbant gets first go at forming a Govt or we'll be looking at a Lib/Lab pact as Broon tempts Clegg across with a promise of electoral reform & Vince Cage as Chancellor.

I smile inwardly and grow erect in my pants as I wait for the Tories to self destruct if either hypothesis occurs.

Hung parliament will set the entire government up for a fall.

The markets are only lending us the £200Bn or so because they expect to get it back (with interest of course!) from the conservatives over the next 10 years.

The more that it appears to be a hung parliament, the less chance of it happening. The markets will shake the Sterling tree until Gordon falls off.

I would prefer to see the entire Labour government hanged

Originally Posted by Tiger-Monkey2

I would prefer to see the entire Labour government hanged

Including past members of this dreadful government I hope!

'I'm from mining stock and I'll never vote Tory...............',

I'm from mining stock as well and I'll never vote anything but Tory. I worked down the pit. My father in law was killed in a roof fall. Four of my friends were killed in the Six Bells disaster (45 killed). I know men ten years younger than me that can barely breath (pneumoconiosis).

The best thing ever that Mrs Thatcher did, apart from having the balls to recover the Falkland Islands, was to front up to the revolting Scargill and bring him and his cohorts of class-war down and to show the awful man that she governed this country not him and his bullying filth.

If this led to the demise of the dreadful mining industry - good! We are well rid of such an appalling way of earning a living - well rid.

PS: Anyone see 'Bottler' Brown standing up to a 'Scargill like character'?
I bet Cameron would, and I bet Cameron would win. It is only the anarchists, the 'my family always vote Labour' and the brain-dead who want this country to be governed by the likes of Crowe and his 'heavies'.

This government exists and survives only because of the financial support of the unions - pay-back time will be along shortly.

Originally Posted by Roger_The_Cat

I'm from mining stock and I'll never vote Tory as long as I have a hole in my arse but I keep having nightmares that the Tories might win. Then I see George Osbourn's odious visage and get some comfort from thinking that the man is such an utter c0ck that there's no way they'll get in.

Labour need a smaller percentage of the vote than the Conservatives. I reckon it'll either be a hung parliament, in which case the incumbant gets first go at forming a Govt or we'll be looking at a Lib/Lab pact as Broon tempts Clegg across with a promise of electoral reform & Vince Cage as Chancellor.

I smile inwardly and grow erect in my pants as I wait for the Tories to self destruct if either hypothesis occurs.

Don't get too smug and I do hope you wet yourself publically! If we all vote with the my "Dad was a miner" crap we will never change.

Some people/areas are hell bent in allowing unions attempt to return to the rule & run the Government atitude, lessons still are not being learn't by these dinosaurs & need to wake up to reality!

Originally Posted by lsquared

Originally Posted by Tiger-Monkey2

I would prefer to see the entire Labour government hanged

Including past members of this dreadful government I hope!

'I'm from mining stock and I'll never vote Tory...............',

I'm from mining stock as well and I'll never vote anything but Tory. I worked down the pit. My father in law was killed in a roof fall. Four of my friends were killed in the Six Bells disaster (45 killed). I know men ten years younger than me that can barely breath (pneumoconiosis).

The best thing ever that Mrs Thatcher did, apart from having the balls to recover the Falkland Islands, was to front up to the revolting Scargill and bring him and his cohorts of class-war down and to show the awful man that she governed this country not him and his bullying filth.

If this led to the demise of the dreadful mining industry - good! We are well rid of such an appalling way of earning a living - well rid.

We've all got horror stories from the pit. Great-grandfather killed in a Durham pit fall months after being invalided out of the DLI after being gassed and a Granddad who had to wear a corset for his back and eventually died of pneumconiosis in my case.

Mining was a terrible industry but what a shame Thatcher was so hung up on class war and destroying the miners that she forgot to bother doing anything about replacing it with other industry. Round Mansfield the best jobs they could get were making knickers for Pretty Polly or working for the profiteers that made a healthy living from stripping the pits out - all the dangers but with less H&S.

The woman was a fanatic. I take comfort in knowing that even if Cameron wins she will be too doolally to notice. To quote Elvis Costello I look forward to getting to the front of a long queue to stamp the dirt down on that particular grave