8 or 9 stoppages per mag? May I suggest bad drills, + bad instruction more like! Don't blame the weapon. If properly cocked the weapon fired every time,the exception being when the cocking lever roll pin broke,usually due to an overenthusiastic user. Mind you I regarded the weapon as an abortion,it has, I hope, been totally scrapped!

Originally Posted by countymounty

8 or 9 stoppages per mag? May I suggest bad drills, + bad instruction more like! Don't blame the weapon. If properly cocked the weapon fired every time,the exception being when the cocking lever roll pin broke,usually due to an overenthusiastic user. Mind you I regarded the weapon as an abortion,it has, I hope, been totally scrapped!

Well, on my last exercise in the ACF, this January, the weapons were giving me stoppages at a rate of at least 3 per magazine, usually because the spring wasn't feeding properly or I was collecting 2 or once even 3 rounds every when I cocked the thing. I was having to re-oil the cocking handle rail in the middle of firefights, despite the obsessive cleaning in harbor locations that was required to keep it together. Gopping, gopping pieces of kit.
I was ecstatic when I was given the LSW because the original section gunner had come down with a case of the runs!

They are being stripped of useable bit's (foregrip,breechparts ect) & the rest cut up & melted down for scrap.

are they that different to the A2? could they not just be converted and put back into normal service

Originally Posted by tank6275

are they that different to the A2? could they not just be converted and put back into normal service

No.We had 12 issued to us at RAF Kinloss when they first came out,over half of them failed the initial pre issue inspection & had to be returned.

Besides,they are mostly all A1's in build & therefore it'd cost too much.

fair enough! being an ex cadet myself i despised those weapons, and they completely defied marksmanship principles!

Originally Posted by countymounty

8 or 9 stoppages per mag? May I suggest bad drills, + bad instruction more like! Don't blame the weapon. If properly cocked the weapon fired every time,the exception being when the cocking lever roll pin broke,usually due to an overenthusiastic user. Mind you I regarded the weapon as an abortion,it has, I hope, been totally scrapped!

:o Sod being in a fire fight with YOU as a buddy then

Originally Posted by Faustic

Why the hell would you want to buy yourself a weapon that has on average 8-9 stoppages every mag?

Holy urban myth batman, next time try preping your weapon for battle and afterwards if it's damadged or worn tell the armourer!

The weapon sucked, I used it a few times and had a stoppage nearly every time, Cocking's a bugger when prone aswell it hurts your back sometimes...I'll be glad to get the A2.

Originally Posted by llech

Originally Posted by Faustic

Why the hell would you want to buy yourself a weapon that has on average 8-9 stoppages every mag?

Holy urban myth batman, next time try preping your weapon for battle and afterwards if it's damadged or worn tell the armourer!

One of the problems is that, aside from when on camps, weapons have normally been thrown in the back of a van, out of which they are issued, so a lot of the major damage is not done by the cadets themselves, but when in transit. I've gone to get a weapon issued to find that the pistol grip has been cracked in half. One even had a foresight banged off.
And then half the time the armory staff don't give a crap, unless the damage is really obvious.