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Discuss Bomb Disposal at the The Intelligence Cell forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; Originally Posted by rickshaw-major Originally Posted by Werewolf Originally Posted by Dunservin I preferred using ...
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    Re: Bomb Disposal

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    Problems with this approach:

    1. Keeping LO2 and LN2 could enough in AFG would likely be a problem
    2. There's O2 in everything
    3. Helium is extremely inflammable
    4. EMP - wtf?
    1. Yes
    2. No there isn't! Where is the O2 in Sodium Chloride.
    3. That would be the inert gas helium! The one that finds it hard to react with anything That helium.
    4. Electro Magnetic Phenomena.

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    Err shouldn't that be Electro Magnetic Pulse......
    No it should be Phenomena. However if you are referring to a weaponized system the Pulse is more appropriate as it describes more accurately what is happening. Earth is always being hit by EM from space and it does not arrive in discreet packages (pulses) but is a continuous wave. Weaponized EM does arrive in a pulse.

    However it is an argument on semantics and you will never get me to admit I am wrong :D :D
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    Re: Bomb Disposal

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    Problems with this approach:

    1. Keeping LO2 and LN2 could enough in AFG would likely be a problem
    2. There's O2 in everything
    3. Helium is extremely inflammable
    4. EMP - wtf?
    1. Yes
    2. No there isn't! Where is the O2 in Sodium Chloride.
    3. That would be the inert gas helium! The one that finds it hard to react with anything That helium.
    4. Electro Magnetic Phenomena.

    2/10 - see me behind the bike sheds Einstein!
    Err shouldn't that be Electro Magnetic Pulse......
    No it should be Phenomena. However if you are referring to a weaponized system the Pulse is more appropriate as it describes more accurately what is happening. Earth is always being hit by EM from space and it does not arrive in discreet packages (pulses) but is a continuous wave. Weaponized EM does arrive in a pulse.

    However it is an argument on semantics and you will never get me to admit I am wrong :D :D
    In which case I shall leave the point there.......

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    Re: Bomb Disposal

    Quote Originally Posted by rickshaw-major
    No it should be Phenomena. However if you are referring to a weaponized system the Pulse is more appropriate as it describes more accurately what is happening. Earth is always being hit by EM from space and it does not arrive in discreet packages (pulses) but is a continuous wave. Weaponized EM does arrive in a pulse.

    However it is an argument on semantics and you will never get me to admit I am wrong :D :D
    Are you using made up words?
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    Re: Bomb Disposal

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    No it should be Phenomena. However if you are referring to a weaponized system the Pulse is more appropriate as it describes more accurately what is happening. Earth is always being hit by EM from space and it does not arrive in discreet packages (pulses) but is a continuous wave. Weaponized EM does arrive in a pulse.

    However it is an argument on semantics and you will never get me to admit I am wrong :D :D
    Are you using made up words?
    No. Weaponized mean to adapt for use as a weapon of war e.g. anthrax spores can be weaponized, cluster sub-munitions need to be loaded, assembled and packed (LAP) before they can be deployed, used and functioned as intended.

    If you mean my use of the z as opposed to the s then that is purely a matter of convention and the fact that I am using a Serbian Cyrillic keyboard.

    I am however using big words as its science.
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    Oops. My bad on helium...apologies.

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    Re: Bomb Disposal

    [quote="flynavy"]Just been reading an article on Sky news, and saw this comment

    "if they remved oxgen from the bomb, could it still go off? If not, then perhaps they could use hilium in an enclosed container over the bomb to displace the oxygen around bomb? If it does produce own oxygen, then would the bomb still ignite at super cool temperature? if no, then spray bomb with liquid nitrogen from heaily armoured vehicle before bomb disposal work on it. if bomb heats up again, they could retreat the bomb.

    would spraying the bomb with liquid nitrogen damage any ignition mechanism anyway? especially if it was a electronic device?

    My bold... errmm... didnt they try this in Lethal Weapon 1 with highly amusing results... ???
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    Twas lethal 2 and they said it slows down detonation of the plastique how true that is the ATO's will know

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    Utter cock - how does one spray liquid nitrogen at a buried bomb? Oh, and even if you could do it, it is an unworkable solution (how much liquid nitrogen do you need, who carries it, how do you keep it liquid etc etc etc).

    It would not slow down the detonation of the 'plastique' it would work by rendering the battery flat!

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    Liquid nitrogen was first used to help defuse German bombs in the second world war.

    Liquid nitrogen is quite easy to place on a bomb. as being a liquid you pour it on. but it would have no effect on the explosive charge itself but electrical or mechanical components would be affected.

    Most consumer grade electronic components only work down to 0 celcius.

    higher grade electornics work to -45 or -80 but again both would be redered inoperable by the application of liquid nitrogen.

    Bad news is you have to find the control circuity to apply the Liquid nitrogen.

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