Discuss Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday at the The Intelligence Cell forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; The wife and me went up to see my Daughter yesterday who is at University ...
The wife and me went up to see my Daughter yesterday who is at University and have been really looking forward to it.
We had a great day lunch, shopping and generaly catching up on news.
We was walking back to the campus around 16.30hrs yesterday afternoon when a scumball approached us and started demanding money obviously to fund his drug use.
I just said "No" and carried on walking with my wife and daughter under a hail of abuse from the scum bag which was not a problem to me.Next thing there was glass falling around us.The scum was that pissed off he had thrown somthing at me and it broke a small window.
This really frietend my wife and daughter so I gave chase to kick feck out of this scumer who wanted to hurt my family.He managed to give me the slip but Im sure he knew he was going to get a good kicking off me.
On reflection and having calmed down if I had caught this scum and laid in to him most likely it would have been me seen as the scum in the Courts and the drug addict getting compensation, counceling and me the "Veteran" in deep shit.
You are right the law would come down on you for giving him the kicking he deserved. Howver he put your family in "iminent" danger and the Criminal Law Act 1963 allows you to defend yourself.
Ahh that is when common law kicks in - citizens arrest and "reasonable" force. If you suspect a crime has been committed, personally I wouldn't put it to the test.
The drug addled pr*ck probably made a hasty exit in the Ford Focus he has been given through claiming disability
so I gave chase to kick feck out of this scumer who wanted to hurt my family.He managed to give me the slip but Im sure he knew he was going to get a good kicking off me.
However, the law says that it
allows you to defend yourself
Sadly, by giving chase and (hopefully) giving the tw*t a shoeing, you are NOT defending yourself (or The Boss and daughter) you would be assaulting the b*sta*rd.
Tony Martin's case comes to mind. If he'd shot the guy in the house everything would have been OK, but he shot the guy in the back as he was running away. Therefore, murder.
Not trying to be Devils Advocate, I too think this law is poorly thought out.
Ahh that is when common law kicks in - citizens arrest and "reasonable" force. If you suspect a crime has been committed, personally I wouldn't put it to the test.
The drug addled pr*ck probably made a hasty exit in the Ford Focus he has been given through claiming disability
You're right, actually it doesn't. You can't reply on 'common law' principles any more. Citizens arrest is not what it used to be, if it even exists any more. You can be done for assault and other 'crimes' just for holding someone against their will. Remember the old dear that got fined for poking a youth in the chest just a few weeks ago.
It's madness but that's the state of play now. That's what my local NPT Sergeant informed me just a few weeks ago.
This is why we're getting this "take a photo and report it" nonsense. Just make sure it's not got a policeman pictured in it.
Policing should be by consent with the support of the community. This useless government have taken all that away in favour of targets and stupid rules and paperwork.
If a policeman arrests someone nowadays he has a mountain of forms to fill in - which takes him off the streets for several hours. For a citizen to do it results in investigation against him/her for possible transgression of laws which no one understands. I sincerely hope that if the Tories get in at the next General Election that they will undo a lot of this red tape and nonsense, but I won't be holding my breath.
Feckin scumbag i wish you'd caught him and knocked seven bells out of him but like you say you'd have been in the sh*t,
i'm sick of hearing about cases like this where the scumbag gets off and gets treated like they're a victim of society and get tax payers money wasted on their disgraceful existence through counselling which only serves to make them believe that they've done nothing wrong, that everyone except themselves are responsible for the way they turned out and that they could probably sue somebody for not teaching them that attacking/stealing from other people is actually wrong while the real victim are usually told by the authorities "there's nothing we can do" unless you try to defend yourself, then we can arrest you and make you look like an out of control thug.
I hope this incident hasn't affect your wife and daughter too much mate
The only way that the Law would not screw you for giving him a kicking would be for protecting your daughter.
If for example she was the one that sprinted after and caught up with the yob,and you turned up several seconds later to find that you " feared for her life " and had to restrain him.
Of course that means no witness,no cctv or anything to go against your version of the event.....a lot of planning to give some righteous justice to the deserving.
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