Safe Streets ? My experiance yesterday

**BarkingSpider** · 18-10-2009, 11:22

Originally Posted by John_D

One thing you can do is always carry a digital camera

Most people have one on their mobile nowadays. Even my cheap and nasty Â£20 Nokia takes a half decent photo.

Lest not forget that some of the beggars and 'so called scumbags' on the streets nowadays are former soldiers fallen on hard times. If MDN was asking for donations to get him back on his feet we'd all be chipping in to help him out.
Having said that, this one sounds like a right twat.

**Werewolf** · 18-10-2009, 11:28

Originally Posted by BarkingSpider

Originally Posted by John_D

One thing you can do is always carry a digital camera

Most people have one on their mobile nowadays. Even my cheap and nasty Â£20 Nokia takes a half decent photo.

Lest not forget that some of the beggars and 'so called scumbags' on the streets nowadays are former soldiers fallen on hard times. If MDN was asking for donations to get him back on his feet we'd all be chipping in to help him out.Having said that, this one sounds like a right twat.

Ex-squaddie or not, it does'nt excuse threatning, abusing or attacking someone because they won't give you money for their next fix.

To suggest otherwise in an insult to all the ex-soldiers etc who simply get on with civilian life without bothering anyone else.

I'm all for giving former soldiers who have fallen on hard times a helping hand - just NOT a free pass.

**bristolmod** · 18-10-2009, 11:34

Personally I feel that this country is now approaching a "tipping point", where the vast majority of law abiding citizens have had enough of the softly softly approach against scumbags over the last 12 years or so ("Hard on crime" my arsse....)

We had a chance with the Tony Martin case to send out a message to those pikey thieving scum, that if you break into our properties you're going to get wasted. Unfortunately the wrong verdict was reached so we're still fair game for the trash that now walks our streets.

Personally, if I was in a similar position, and I had a chance to defend myself and my loved ones, I would- and worry about the law before a jury later.

No one else is protecting us- the law isn't on our side. What else can we do, and what else do these scum understand?

**CC_TA** · 18-10-2009, 11:41

Originally Posted by Markintime

Sorry to be boringly practical but there are a few things you can do to help you and others in the future.
You need to report this whole incident to Campus Security. They don't want druggies aggressively begging on the Campus and upsetting students, staff and parents alike. If you can describe him then they would probably be able to spot him on their CCTV. Once identified they can take steps to ensure that he is kept off Campus in the future. Most universities have a Police Campus Liaison Officer and he, if necessary can take steps to have an ASBO placed upon said druggie.
You are probably lucky that you didn't catch him. Druggies tend to suffer from such delights as AIDS and Hepatitis C, their personal hygiene is often non-existent so fleas, lice etc are profligate and (as happened to a mate of mine) if you punch him in the mouth and cut your knuckle on his teeth then be prepared for a massive infection which could place your whole hand in danger.
As a post script you protected your wife and daughter but you've obviously larded up a bit since your airborne days so perhaps a visit to the gym is in order. ;)

Bit of luck it wasn't s student! Think what you might have caught off of one them horrid little things :D

Hope you family and yourself are OK, definately report it.

**gobbyidiot** · 18-10-2009, 11:47

Nice and friendly, "What's your name, mate?" "Will you be around here in an hour?" i) Look's great written down, "I thought he might be the offender, and I also thought it possible that if he was not the offender he might be a useful witness, officer". ii) Scares the sh*te out of scumbag, who probably is around there all the time and fears a really concerted hiding. iii) Might well encourage him to come at you (if that's what you want).

Personally, having done the whole "street dance with thieving junky holding bloody razor blade" it's not something I'd repeat unless I absolutely had to.

[Walking calmly away and then doubling the long way around the bloke would also probably have netted him, although it's damn hard to think like that in the moment].

I've twice recently found myself responding to dickheads in the street and it's actually beginning to worry me because i) it's out of my mouth before I have a chance to edit it and ii) it's only a matter of time before it gets ugly. Scum drags you down to its level.

**scuba_frog** · 18-10-2009, 12:07

He was probably just trying to teach you some grammar and you really frietend 'im, innit?

**vvaannmmaann** · 18-10-2009, 12:15

For future reference.

Make sure that any wounds you inflict are on the attackers front.Wounds on the back would indicate the scumbag was moving away from you,and plod would probably treat you accordingly.

**scuba_frog** · 18-10-2009, 12:26

Originally Posted by vvaannmmaann

For future reference.

Make sure that any wounds you inflict are on the attackers front.Wounds on the back would indicate the scumbag was moving away from you,and plod would probably treat you accordingly.

Excellent advice from someone who won't even know you're being processed through the criminal justice system and will care even less. you can quote him in your defence....'but your honour, vaaanmaaan told me it would be OK!' I'm sure once you're inside he'll offer to pay your rent/mortgage so you don't end up homeless and he'll probably look after your mrs and daughters, regualrly. Who needs solicitors with such sage indiviudals as this on the interweb.

**BarkingSpider** · 18-10-2009, 13:23

Originally Posted by Werewolf

Originally Posted by BarkingSpider

Originally Posted by John_D

One thing you can do is always carry a digital camera

Most people have one on their mobile nowadays. Even my cheap and nasty Â£20 Nokia takes a half decent photo.

Lest not forget that some of the beggars and 'so called scumbags' on the streets nowadays are former soldiers fallen on hard times. If MDN was asking for donations to get him back on his feet we'd all be chipping in to help him out.Having said that, this one sounds like a right twat.

Ex-squaddie or not, it does'nt excuse threatning, abusing or attacking someone because they won't give you money for their next fix.

To suggest otherwise in an insult to all the ex-soldiers etc who simply get on with civilian life without bothering anyone else.

I'm all for giving former soldiers who have fallen on hard times a helping hand - just NOT a free pass.

Agreed. Hence my last point about said scumbag.

**Werewolf** · 18-10-2009, 18:32

Fair one, Spider.

**sunami** · 18-10-2009, 18:39

It's not assault, it's wiping shite off your shoes.

**BlueDanubeWalt** · 18-10-2009, 20:10

Originally Posted by sixty_three

The wife and me went up to see my Daughter yesterday who is at University and have been really looking forward to it.
We had a great day lunch, shopping and generaly catching up on news.
We was walking back to the campus around 16.30hrs yesterday afternoon when a scumball approached us and started demanding money obviously to fund his drug use.
I just said "No" and carried on walking with my wife and daughter under a hail of abuse from the scum bag which was not a problem to me.Next thing there was glass falling around us.The scum was that pissed off he had thrown somthing at me and it broke a small window.
This really frietend my wife and daughter so I gave chase to kick feck out of this scumer who wanted to hurt my family.He managed to give me the slip but Im sure he knew he was going to get a good kicking off me.
On reflection and having calmed down if I had caught this scum and laid in to him most likely it would have been me seen as the scum in the Courts and the drug addict getting compensation, counceling and me the "Veteran" in deep s***.

Don't want to piss on your fire but I take it your avatar/Handle reflect your age...its hard, I went through the same(I'm 60) when a couple of years ago a scrote..well three of them tried it on I did alright for about 90 secs..enough to put them off, but after, that was it, if they came back, I was 'toast'...dead hero...mmm...no...!!

**Spanny** · 18-10-2009, 20:34

Originally Posted by dave8307

Tony Martin's case comes to mind. If he'd shot the guy in the house everything would have been OK, but he shot the guy in the back as he was running away. Therefore, murder.

Not trying to be Devils Advocate, I too think this law is poorly thought out.

Mind you Mr Martin was very unlucky to have the only 12 people in the country who think burglers have rights to be sitting on the jury

**Werewolf** · 18-10-2009, 20:39

Originally Posted by Spanny

Originally Posted by dave8307

Tony Martin's case comes to mind. If he'd shot the guy in the house everything would have been OK, but he shot the guy in the back as he was running away. Therefore, murder.

Not trying to be Devils Advocate, I too think this law is poorly thought out.

Mind you Mr Martin was very unlucky to have the only 12 people in the country who think burglers have rights to be sitting on the jury

Not to mention the local Plod who not only failed to protect Mr Martin before the incident, but also failed to stop Pikies intimidating the jury during the trial.

Why should Britania tremble, with men such as this to defend her?

**Listy** · 19-10-2009, 03:41

I love how everyone cites Tony Martin, and gets all riled up.

What no one seems to remember is the Story that made it into the local Newspaper (I'm not a million miles from Tony Martin's). But for some reason it never got the coverage of Martin's case.

A Farmer hears some noise from his garage one night. Goes out with his shotgun to have a look.As he's approaches he sees some scrotes loading his Quad bike into the back of a van. Upon being challenged the scum jump into the van and try to get away. AS there's only one road, and the farmer was standing in the road the Van was heading straight towards him. He fired both barrels of his shotgun through the windscreen. I remember he hit the little shites, can't remember if it was terminal though.
He got off scot free, it never made it to court. The Police didn't even attempt to charge him.

Now I'm not defending aforementioned scum in Sixty_three's account, hell I used to be campus security, with a Pikie infestation right next to my site. So I know how much bother they can be. I'd quite happily exterminate the lot of them. Just pointing out that Tony Martin's case wasn't Unique, and if its within hte law it doesn't go anywhere.