Thread: Union Flag Badge is 'Offensive' says Met

Originally Posted by Alsacien

...
I'm wondering though, if this may have something to do with someone being worried about plod being mistakenly identified as BNP supporters.....

Well we shouldn't worry about that, doing so effectively gives our flag to racists. All that is needed if someone complains is to ask what their complaint is? If they think it is in support of the BNP, tell them what it is all about. If they still complain or just generally consider the Union flag offensive, sod em.

Originally Posted by Werewolf

This would be a good time for you to take your head for a sh1t. Removing ID numbers is well out of order because it makes it difficult to identify officers who have used excessive force during a demonstration. Wearing a Union Jack badge harms nobody and does not prevent the officer from carrying out his duties.

Anyone who finds it offensive can take a flying fcuk at a rolling doughnut.

Your short time in the TA clearly did not give you an understanding of the importance of discipline.

You will still be able to pin whatever badge you like to your Tescos fleece.

Come back when your single brain cell has found a mate, you d1ck.

Has some one sold our country! do we know who too!

Is the Govermint British!

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Originally Posted by Resurgam

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Is this the same Met that flew a rainbow flag instead of the Union Jack? I know Avon and Somerset have now make their non muslim female coopers wear ahead scarf when dealing with muslims which is odd as the police have taken to allowing minorities to dictate the faith of any plod responding to their shouts.

Come the counter revolution brothers.

Please tell me that is not true.

It must be a wah

Not a wha! Avon and Somerset have issuerd their female officers scarves to wear when dealing with members of the religion of peace. Monortiy groups are also being given the right to request a copper of their respective faith when dealing with incidents.

Of course if I asked for a white copper as he would have a greater understanding of my cultural needs... I'd be arrested for racism and thought crimes.

IIRC from the reports, the scarves only need to be worn when going into mosque to chat to the elders
same instruciotn kind of apply to male coppers wearing the beermat when going into a synagogue to chat with the rabbi

Originally Posted by nebapneb

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Originally Posted by Resurgam

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Is this the same Met that flew a rainbow flag instead of the Union Jack? I know Avon and Somerset have now make their non muslim female coopers wear ahead scarf when dealing with muslims which is odd as the police have taken to allowing minorities to dictate the faith of any plod responding to their shouts.

Come the counter revolution brothers.

Please tell me that is not true.

It must be a wah

Not a wha! Avon and Somerset have issuerd their female officers scarves to wear when dealing with members of the religion of peace. Monortiy groups are also being given the right to request a copper of their respective faith when dealing with incidents.

Of course if I asked for a white copper as he would have a greater understanding of my cultural needs... I'd be arrested for racism and thought crimes.

IIRC from the reports, the scarves only need to be worn when going into mosque to chat to the elders
same instruciotn kind of apply to male coppers wearing the beermat when going into a synagogue to chat with the rabbi

Spoilsport, you just exploded the headline.....nevermind, the chest-beaters will soon find another one.

Originally Posted by western

Originally Posted by Werewolf

This would be a good time for you to take your head for a sh1t. Removing ID numbers is well out of order because it makes it difficult to identify officers who have used excessive force during a demonstration. Wearing a Union Jack badge harms nobody and does not prevent the officer from carrying out his duties.

Anyone who finds it offensive can take a flying fcuk at a rolling doughnut.

Your short time in the TA clearly did not give you an understanding of the importance of discipline.

You will still be able to pin whatever badge you like to your Tescos fleece.

Come back when your single brain cell has found a mate, you d1ck.

I'm sure you have had a glorious career in the Provisional Wing of Stonewall. But I would'nt trust you to run security at a Tescos on a Friday night.

Come back when you grow a pair, b1tch.

Obviously the Met Chiefs are not former Military like a good % of the men and women they command are!!!

In this case the 'Outrage Bus' should surely only be a London Double Decker...

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Is this the same Met that flew a rainbow flag instead of the Union Jack? I know Avon and Somerset have now make their non muslim female coopers wear ahead scarf when dealing with muslims which is odd as the police have taken to allowing minorities to dictate the faith of any plod responding to their shouts.

Come the counter revolution brothers.

Stop talking about this crap gentlemen and stand up grab the knob that came up with this idea by the throat and enlighten him/her/transgender and remind them who's boss - us the majority!

Once more unto the breach!

Rifleman Firebrand

Originally Posted by Werewolf

I'm sure you have had a glorious career in the Provisional Wing of Stonewall. But I would'nt trust you to run security at a Tescos on a Friday night.

Come back when you grow a pair, b1tch.

No I had a full Regular career with the Army. Now really try to understand what I first posted before getting all outraged, which is just about as low as grief whoring in my book.

The point I was making was not about the design of the badge, which is irrelevant, it was about Police Officers doing what they are told. The fundamental of discipline.

The Police and the Met in particular, think that they can pick and choose which instructions to obey, they also have their own interpretation of the law but that is another thread.

In a nutshell, if they defey their superiors they should be disciplined and if they continue they should be sacked.

Originally Posted by nebapneb

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Originally Posted by Resurgam

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Is this the same Met that flew a rainbow flag instead of the Union Jack? I know Avon and Somerset have now make their non muslim female coopers wear ahead scarf when dealing with muslims which is odd as the police have taken to allowing minorities to dictate the faith of any plod responding to their shouts.

Come the counter revolution brothers.

Please tell me that is not true.

It must be a wah

Not a wha! Avon and Somerset have issuerd their female officers scarves to wear when dealing with members of the religion of peace. Monortiy groups are also being given the right to request a copper of their respective faith when dealing with incidents.

Of course if I asked for a white copper as he would have a greater understanding of my cultural needs... I'd be arrested for racism and thought crimes.

IIRC from the reports, the scarves only need to be worn when going into mosque to chat to the elders
same instruciotn kind of apply to male coppers wearing the beermat when going into a synagogue to chat with the rabbi

Why? Would they take off their headgear to walk into a police station? They are in the UK, not downtown Baghdad or Tel Aviv.

If we are overseas we are expected to show sensitivity and respect to local customs and culture.. no problems with that, it is polite. But how come that doesn't apply when these people come to MY country?

How about a bit of sensitivity and respect for MY culture??

Originally Posted by western

Originally Posted by Werewolf

I'm sure you have had a glorious career in the Provisional Wing of Stonewall. But I would'nt trust you to run security at a Tescos on a Friday night.

Come back when you grow a pair, b1tch.

No I had a full Regular career with the Army. Now really try to understand what I first posted before getting all outraged, which is just about as low as grief whoring in my book.

The point I was making was not about the design of the badge, which is irrelevant, it was about Police Officers doing what they are told. The fundamental of discipline.

The Police and the Met in particular, think that they can pick and choose which instructions to obey, they also have their own interpretation of the law but that is another thread.

In a nutshell, if they defey their superiors they should be disciplined and if they continue they should be sacked.

Fair point, one door for one equals many doors for many.
We would not want plod regaling themselves in RSPCA/CND/Gay Pride/Communist Stars or any other badges they choose, as it could also be perceived to impact their supposed impartiality.

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Originally Posted by nebapneb

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Originally Posted by Resurgam

Originally Posted by The_Coming_Man

Is this the same Met that flew a rainbow flag instead of the Union Jack? I know Avon and Somerset have now make their non muslim female coopers wear ahead scarf when dealing with muslims which is odd as the police have taken to allowing minorities to dictate the faith of any plod responding to their shouts.

Come the counter revolution brothers.

Please tell me that is not true.

It must be a wah

Not a wha! Avon and Somerset have issuerd their female officers scarves to wear when dealing with members of the religion of peace. Monortiy groups are also being given the right to request a copper of their respective faith when dealing with incidents.

Of course if I asked for a white copper as he would have a greater understanding of my cultural needs... I'd be arrested for racism and thought crimes.

IIRC from the reports, the scarves only need to be worn when going into mosque to chat to the elders
same instruciotn kind of apply to male coppers wearing the beermat when going into a synagogue to chat with the rabbi

Why? Would they take off their headgear to walk into a police station? They are in the UK, not downtown Baghdad or Tel Aviv.

If we are overseas we are expected to show sensitivity and respect to local customs and culture.. no problems with that, it is polite. But how come that doesn't apply when these people come to MY country?

How about a bit of sensitivity and respect for MY culture??

Every time I visit the nudist colony I take my kit off to comply with the rules of the place.
Does not make me any less British

If the rules say no head gear in the cop shop they should comply with that too.

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Originally Posted by western

Originally Posted by Werewolf

I'm sure you have had a glorious career in the Provisional Wing of Stonewall. But I would'nt trust you to run security at a Tescos on a Friday night.

Come back when you grow a pair, b1tch.

No I had a full Regular career with the Army. Now really try to understand what I first posted before getting all outraged, which is just about as low as grief whoring in my book.

The point I was making was not about the design of the badge, which is irrelevant, it was about Police Officers doing what they are told. The fundamental of discipline.

The Police and the Met in particular, think that they can pick and choose which instructions to obey, they also have their own interpretation of the law but that is another thread.

In a nutshell, if they defey their superiors they should be disciplined and if they continue they should be sacked.

Fair point, one door for one equals many doors for many.
We would not want plod regaling themselves in RSPCA/CND/Gay Pride/Communist Stars or any other badges they choose, as it could also be perceived to impact their supposed impartiality.

The national flag is a unique emblem in that it suppsedly represents ALL of our citizens, it it supposed to be a symbol of unity.

The other badges you mention are partisan and therefore divisive labels.

How can your countries flag be deemed inappropriate or offensive?

I find the EU flag extremely offensive but that doesn't stop local councils flying the F*cking thing.

Originally Posted by Alsacien

Fair point, one door for one equals many doors for many.
We would not want plod regaling themselves in RSPCA/CND/Gay Pride/Communist Stars or any other badges they choose, as it could also be perceived to impact their supposed impartiality.

It is indeed a fair point. Completley nullified by the rainbow flag in support of gay pride, but still a fair point.
How can it be Force policy to display rainbow gay pride shite but offensive to display the union flag?

This sort of shit pisses me off. Looking at the UK from outside, it would appear that the government, has done all it can to squash national pride. They need to get a grip, national pride has nothing to do with nationalism.

I live in Germany and there are national flags and symbols everywhere. Not just the German flag, but all countries and they are not complained about. Why is it only the Union Flag, that causes such a problem?

I believe the government should pass a law, stating that it is not illegal to display the national flag and that it is to be possitively encouraged; especially within areas dealing with the public. Maybe, as staed by an earlier poster, encorporating it into the uniform.