This would be a good time for you to take your head for a sh1t. Removing ID numbers is well out of order because it makes it difficult to identify officers who have used excessive force during a demonstration. Wearing a Union Jack badge harms nobody and does not prevent the officer from carrying out his duties.Originally Posted by western
Anyone who finds it offensive can take a flying fcuk at a rolling doughnut.
Saddam's Law: Shi'ite happens.
Choked on my tea on that one - truth spoken with power
"Greater the deed, greater the need
Lightly to laugh it away,
Shall be the mark of the English breed
Until the Judgment Day!"
There is a simple answer to this, change the uniform so that it does have the National flag included like all the other Police forces i have seen in Europe. Pretty much like our people on the other front lines.
Let the Police Police, if you were a scrote who would you be more afraid of, old style Policing C 1040's jail terms with hard labour or now.........
Discuss.
RGCJ
Special Faeces...............my arrse
Edited to add 1940's Policing, where are my spectacles?
Special Faeces...............my arrse
Given that the Met displayed gay pride flags I think dis-allowing the Union Flag is a disgrace
That's an easy one, brothers and sisters. Next time the Met flies a flag that ARRSERS deem offensive, then we'll complain and have it removed.
Oh, hang on. I forgot. They'd arrest us.
Well we shouldn't worry about that, doing so effectively gives our flag to racists. All that is needed if someone complains is to ask what their complaint is? If they think it is in support of the BNP, tell them what it is all about. If they still complain or just generally consider the Union flag offensive, sod em.
Your short time in the TA clearly did not give you an understanding of the importance of discipline.
You will still be able to pin whatever badge you like to your Tescos fleece.
Come back when your single brain cell has found a mate, you d1ck.
Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!”
Has some one sold our country! do we know who too!
Is the Govermint British!
Democracy only works when I tell you it works
IIRC from the reports, the scarves only need to be worn when going into mosque to chat to the eldersNot a wha! Avon and Somerset have issuerd their female officers scarves to wear when dealing with members of the religion of peace. Monortiy groups are also being given the right to request a copper of their respective faith when dealing with incidents.Please tell me that is not true.
It must be a wah
Of course if I asked for a white copper as he would have a greater understanding of my cultural needs... I'd be arrested for racism and thought crimes.
same instruciotn kind of apply to male coppers wearing the beermat when going into a synagogue to chat with the rabbi
Fox in a Box makes oi larf!
Spoilsport, you just exploded the headline.....nevermind, the chest-beaters will soon find another one.IIRC from the reports, the scarves only need to be worn when going into mosque to chat to the eldersNot a wha! Avon and Somerset have issuerd their female officers scarves to wear when dealing with members of the religion of peace. Monortiy groups are also being given the right to request a copper of their respective faith when dealing with incidents.Please tell me that is not true.
It must be a wah
Of course if I asked for a white copper as he would have a greater understanding of my cultural needs... I'd be arrested for racism and thought crimes.
same instruciotn kind of apply to male coppers wearing the beermat when going into a synagogue to chat with the rabbi
I'm sure you have had a glorious career in the Provisional Wing of Stonewall. But I would'nt trust you to run security at a Tescos on a Friday night.Your short time in the TA clearly did not give you an understanding of the importance of discipline.
You will still be able to pin whatever badge you like to your Tescos fleece.
Come back when your single brain cell has found a mate, you d1ck.
Come back when you grow a pair, b1tch.
Saddam's Law: Shi'ite happens.
Obviously the Met Chiefs are not former Military like a good % of the men and women they command are!!!
In this case the 'Outrage Bus' should surely only be a London Double Decker...
ARRSE & UK Armed Forces Coins - Press the image...
Stop talking about this crap gentlemen and stand up grab the knob that came up with this idea by the throat and enlighten him/her/transgender and remind them who's boss - us the majority!
Once more unto the breach!
Rifleman Firebrand
No I had a full Regular career with the Army. Now really try to understand what I first posted before getting all outraged, which is just about as low as grief whoring in my book.I'm sure you have had a glorious career in the Provisional Wing of Stonewall. But I would'nt trust you to run security at a Tescos on a Friday night.
Come back when you grow a pair, b1tch.
The point I was making was not about the design of the badge, which is irrelevant, it was about Police Officers doing what they are told. The fundamental of discipline.
The Police and the Met in particular, think that they can pick and choose which instructions to obey, they also have their own interpretation of the law but that is another thread.
In a nutshell, if they defey their superiors they should be disciplined and if they continue they should be sacked.
Over'? Did you say 'over'? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell, no!”
Why? Would they take off their headgear to walk into a police station? They are in the UK, not downtown Baghdad or Tel Aviv.IIRC from the reports, the scarves only need to be worn when going into mosque to chat to the eldersNot a wha! Avon and Somerset have issuerd their female officers scarves to wear when dealing with members of the religion of peace. Monortiy groups are also being given the right to request a copper of their respective faith when dealing with incidents.Please tell me that is not true.
It must be a wah
Of course if I asked for a white copper as he would have a greater understanding of my cultural needs... I'd be arrested for racism and thought crimes.
same instruciotn kind of apply to male coppers wearing the beermat when going into a synagogue to chat with the rabbi
If we are overseas we are expected to show sensitivity and respect to local customs and culture.. no problems with that, it is polite. But how come that doesn't apply when these people come to MY country?
How about a bit of sensitivity and respect for MY culture??
Fair point, one door for one equals many doors for many.No I had a full Regular career with the Army. Now really try to understand what I first posted before getting all outraged, which is just about as low as grief whoring in my book.I'm sure you have had a glorious career in the Provisional Wing of Stonewall. But I would'nt trust you to run security at a Tescos on a Friday night.
Come back when you grow a pair, b1tch.
The point I was making was not about the design of the badge, which is irrelevant, it was about Police Officers doing what they are told. The fundamental of discipline.
The Police and the Met in particular, think that they can pick and choose which instructions to obey, they also have their own interpretation of the law but that is another thread.
In a nutshell, if they defey their superiors they should be disciplined and if they continue they should be sacked.
We would not want plod regaling themselves in RSPCA/CND/Gay Pride/Communist Stars or any other badges they choose, as it could also be perceived to impact their supposed impartiality.
Every time I visit the nudist colony I take my kit off to comply with the rules of the place.Why? Would they take off their headgear to walk into a police station? They are in the UK, not downtown Baghdad or Tel Aviv.IIRC from the reports, the scarves only need to be worn when going into mosque to chat to the eldersNot a wha! Avon and Somerset have issuerd their female officers scarves to wear when dealing with members of the religion of peace. Monortiy groups are also being given the right to request a copper of their respective faith when dealing with incidents.Please tell me that is not true.
It must be a wah
Of course if I asked for a white copper as he would have a greater understanding of my cultural needs... I'd be arrested for racism and thought crimes.
same instruciotn kind of apply to male coppers wearing the beermat when going into a synagogue to chat with the rabbi
If we are overseas we are expected to show sensitivity and respect to local customs and culture.. no problems with that, it is polite. But how come that doesn't apply when these people come to MY country?
How about a bit of sensitivity and respect for MY culture??
Does not make me any less British
If the rules say no head gear in the cop shop they should comply with that too.
The national flag is a unique emblem in that it suppsedly represents ALL of our citizens, it it supposed to be a symbol of unity.Fair point, one door for one equals many doors for many.No I had a full Regular career with the Army. Now really try to understand what I first posted before getting all outraged, which is just about as low as grief whoring in my book.I'm sure you have had a glorious career in the Provisional Wing of Stonewall. But I would'nt trust you to run security at a Tescos on a Friday night.
Come back when you grow a pair, b1tch.
The point I was making was not about the design of the badge, which is irrelevant, it was about Police Officers doing what they are told. The fundamental of discipline.
The Police and the Met in particular, think that they can pick and choose which instructions to obey, they also have their own interpretation of the law but that is another thread.
In a nutshell, if they defey their superiors they should be disciplined and if they continue they should be sacked.
We would not want plod regaling themselves in RSPCA/CND/Gay Pride/Communist Stars or any other badges they choose, as it could also be perceived to impact their supposed impartiality.
The other badges you mention are partisan and therefore divisive labels.
How can your countries flag be deemed inappropriate or offensive?
I find the EU flag extremely offensive but that doesn't stop local councils flying the F*cking thing.
It is indeed a fair point. Completley nullified by the rainbow flag in support of gay pride, but still a fair point.
How can it be Force policy to display rainbow gay pride shite but offensive to display the union flag?
This sort of shit pisses me off. Looking at the UK from outside, it would appear that the government, has done all it can to squash national pride. They need to get a grip, national pride has nothing to do with nationalism.
I live in Germany and there are national flags and symbols everywhere. Not just the German flag, but all countries and they are not complained about. Why is it only the Union Flag, that causes such a problem?
I believe the government should pass a law, stating that it is not illegal to display the national flag and that it is to be possitively encouraged; especially within areas dealing with the public. Maybe, as staed by an earlier poster, encorporating it into the uniform.
The harder the fighting and the longer the war, the more the infantry and in fact all the arms, lean on the Gunners - Field Marshal Montgomery.
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