Originally Posted by western

Not in the least wrong these skills are ten a penny in the real world.

You don't get it do you. This is the real world, not the world according to Western. Stick to things you know something about...CEA's your hobbyhorse isn't it?

Originally Posted by western

That last bit makes my point though, the powers that be do not care about the subject do they?

Oh dear.....you really are out of touch aren't you!

I won't add more, I'm assuming your ignorance of the subject is because you're retired. if not, you're just plain stupid, lazy, or baiting.

What's teh business standard for this sort of stuff?

Originally Posted by A2_Matelot

Oh dear.....you really are out of touch aren't you!

I won't add more, I'm assuming your ignorance of the subject is because you're retired. if not, you're just plain stupid, lazy, or baiting.

Oh dear you are sensitive aren't you? Why is that I wonder? could it be that you are one of these people and you have spent many a year building up an atmosphere of mystery around what is a routine task?

No I am not retired and yes I know quite a lot about the subject.

Originally Posted by m556

It's really just a matter of time before they get approached or socially engineered, which is fairly easy on LinkedIn if you're patient and can pose as a fellow professional.

or headhunted for a better job, which is part of the reason some are so open on linkedin.

Originally Posted by chocolate_frog

What's teh business standard for this sort of stuff?

This will give you a grounding;
ISO 27001 Information Security Management System

Add a pinch of:
BS 25999- Business Continuity Management Standard (not obvious but there are some useful crossovers)

Rub vigorously with the SPF to add HMG flavour:
Security Policy Framework | Cabinet Office

To really emphasis that HMG taste add;
Publications - Home

An optional extra which is purely added if personal data is involved:
Data Protection and Freedom of Information advice - ICO

Then for the final MOD sauce add a liberal coating of JSP and other documents

Place into a room with 10 security consultants and standby for 12 different results

garnish with with generous doses of cynicism, cost cutting and failure to understand the basics by techies and you have pretty much got my daily grind weighed off!

Originally Posted by CRmeansCeilingReached

or headhunted for a better job, which is part of the reason some are so open on linkedin.

OOOh you cynic you

Anyone would think we all think like corporate whores.......................oh hang on!

Originally Posted by western

No I am not retired and yes I know quite a lot about the subject.

But it is fairly obvious that your idea of 'quite a lot' is not really that much.

Originally Posted by SecurityGeek

But it is fairly obvious that your idea of 'quite a lot' is not really that much.

What do you base that wild assumption on?

Both you and Matelot do not seem to like the idea that your view of yourselves is being challenged. Now that is a very common trait in people employed on IT Security tasks.

So come back with a little substance rather that slinging barbs like a girl.

Funny thing is your longer post above actually supports my view.

Originally Posted by Idrach

Because there is bugger all career structure at the moment for anybody - especially officers - in this field. Highest regular rank involved in this having had anything like a career at it is, probably, OC 591 SU. And they're an admin person. Some of the 591 Flt Lts have been known to go on jobs. AISU is now a section - and they're not career infosec, really, are they. The MOD senior bod is a para - not known for their cutting-edge use of IT to do their jobs. Etc, etc.

OC 591 SU is a C-E Eng post, generally with a background in the ICT field.