Our Regiment has no problem with manning and I dont think youve been reading my posts as it was for the benifit of the people who keep slagging our Regiment of when most of the ones bitching couldnt make the grade. I know there are people who do not wish to join our regiment but youve got to say to yourself why do these other ones constantly bitch.
Then again maybe youve been up the Mortars block

Originally Posted by dogmonkey

Nope, you made yourself perfectly clear, but you either did not read, or did not understand, my post which, to summarise, said that the vast majority do not wish to join the Parachute Regiment. And hence your undermanning. Unfortunately, you seem to be proving the last line of my last post, but then no real susprises there.

Originally Posted by death from above

Our Regiment has no problem with manning and I dont think youve been reading my posts as it was for the benifit of the people who keep slagging our Regiment of when most of the ones bitching couldnt make the grade. I know there are people who do not wish to join our regiment but youve got to say to yourself why do these other ones constantly bitch.
Then again maybe youve been up the Mortars block

Originally Posted by dogmonkey

Nope, you made yourself perfectly clear, but you either did not read, or did not understand, my post which, to summarise, said that the vast majority do not wish to join the Parachute Regiment. And hence your undermanning. Unfortunately, you seem to be proving the last line of my last post, but then no real susprises there.

:D :D :D

Originally Posted by death from above

Our Regiment has no problem with manning and I dont think youve been reading my posts as it was for the benifit of the people who keep slagging our Regiment of when most of the ones bitching couldnt make the grade. I know there are people who do not wish to join our regiment but youve got to say to yourself why do these other ones constantly bitch.
Then again maybe youve been up the Mortars block

Originally Posted by dogmonkey

Nope, you made yourself perfectly clear, but you either did not read, or did not understand, my post which, to summarise, said that the vast majority do not wish to join the Parachute Regiment. And hence your undermanning. Unfortunately, you seem to be proving the last line of my last post, but then no real susprises there.

Hmm, erudite response. Maybe I need to simplify things here.

1. Get your facts right before you post in future. Your Battalions are undermanned if you check the statistics.

2. As to those who do not make the grade, you are right, noone likes a sore loser.

3. Please do not antagonise the vast majority of us out here who did not want to join the Paras. It is exactly your misplaced arrogance which consistently pisses the majority off, and gives you (collectively) the rep of being up your own (or in the case of your mor Pl, each other's) arrses. It is boring, and frankly everyone has heard it before.

4. Most of the people who post here are infantrymen, and we all have different roles. Just like we do not jump out of planes, neither do you practice high speed armoured manoeuvre. This is why we have different tools in the toolbox, and this is what we are concerned will be reduced by the forthcoming cuts. So let's quit bitching about yours being bigger than everyone elses, and just be satisfied that all roles of infantry are necessary, for varying reasons.

Originally Posted by death from above

Our Regiment has no problem with manning

By the projected manning figures for the next six months the Parachute Regiment will be undermanned albeit by a relatively small figure.

The problem with manning within the regiment is two fold;

The drain being experienced due to the private military companies operating out in the middle east and the fact they potential recruits are queueing up to get into Catterick but unfortunately they are falling by the wayside and not making the grade.

So Death from Above you really do need to get your facts correct.

Do you think Blair would risk a airborne drop with the risk of it all going horribly wrong ?. The parachute regiment are very good but that dosent mean other regiments are not up too the job .Putting emphasis on light forces all very good .But wmiks are no match for tanks or even rpg toting
locals .Unless they are going to buy loads of new kit its just going to be a
dressed up budget cut

Originally Posted by Rooper

Originally Posted by RCSignals

so does the BW

If the BW are that good how come they have got one of the lowest pass rates on career courses such as Snr & Jnr Brecon? And before you give the excuse of Telic, I'm talking about prior to the deployment on this.

They are about on a par with the RS although the Fijians are bringing up their results!

Get down to its basic unit - section or platoon in an infantry unit - who controls it? - leads it? - usually the "hardest" man. If you take most of these hard, tough men and shove them in one unit then surely the rest of the infantry suffers..............this was a criticism levelled at the para regiments in 1947 by a senior officer - sorry, not AT the para regiments but at the way they were "creamed" off from the rest of the heavy infantry.

Originally Posted by 7gunner

Originally Posted by Rooper

Originally Posted by RCSignals

so does the BW

If the BW are that good how come they have got one of the lowest pass rates on career courses such as Snr & Jnr Brecon? And before you give the excuse of Telic, I'm talking about prior to the deployment on this.

They are about on a par with the RS although the Fijians are bringing up their results!

Get down to its basic unit - section or platoon in an infantry unit - who controls it? - leads it? - usually the "hardest" man. If you take most of these hard, tough men and shove them in one unit then surely the rest of the infantry suffers..............this was a criticism levelled at the para regiments in 1947 by a senior officer - sorry, not AT the para regiments but at the way they were "creamed" off from the rest of the heavy infantry.

No - I can't accept that. In fact what you are saying is bollox. IMHO.

By your premise the sect/pl is run by the hardest man, not the best leader. So your section is run by someone who is more than liklely a pte, never made any rank, never will, but he is well 'ard. The Sect Cpl or Pl Sgt just stand by and let him get on with it. Your OC/CO will, in your scenario, always defer to the 'hardest' man and not the person actually doing the leading?

I have never really header such p i sh in my life.

You are either a walt or have a lot of learning to do.

7gunner.

I disagree - I lead a platoon because I am the most experienced man and have leadership qualities. It's nothing to do with being the hardest (although in my case I am that as well - any of my lads reading this feel free to have a go.)

The para regiments are not creamed off the infantry - the recruits want something very different out of the job. Don't slag off the paras - they are good at what they do. And this nonsense about hardness doesn't come into it.

Rooper - I have nothing but respect for the Blackwatch. They are a good fighting Bn. And I'd put money on them holding their own against any troops in the world. exept perhaps my regt.

As for the county and scottish regiments I personally do accept that some of them are going to be lost but personally I think the army will be, if nothing else, a much less interesting entity for their passing.


7gunner - are you actually a serving soldier because you have some funny ideas about how things work.

Originally Posted by woody

Do you think Blair would risk a airborne drop with the risk of it all going horribly wrong ?.

I think Blair would gladly throw any of our lives away without a second thought if it came to it and he thought he could keep it quiet.

Im sorry - you misunderstood me - they were'nt MY comments - they were written by an infantry officer shortly after the war (WW2) in his autobiography and basically he was having a moan as I repeated - perhaps his best volunteered??I dont know.