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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    In reply to the percentage of courageous, forthright, outstanding, honest, trustworthy scots who make up this corncucopia of the British militia, there was an article in the Soldier about 4 or 5 years ago, about the make-up of the army, before we recruited further afield. From memory which has sadly been damaged by the old Herforder Pils, the scots led the way, followed by the Gurkhas, English, Irish & Welsh. Of course the gurkhas have been downsized now.

    The latest breakdown of ethnic minorities of course includes fijian, samoan, zimbabwian (more than I expected), south african etc. How cosmopolitan we are now, and we will soon have a scottish PM as well !!

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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

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    If you weren't such a d*ckhead with your racist overtones, a few more of the 'Jocks' may accept what it is that you are trying to say, but in your effort to sound funny, you sort of lose the meaning of your arguement.
    This is / was called banter. 'Racism' between the constituent parts of Great Britain was completely unheard of until the precious advocates of the politically correct decided to extend their meaningless middle class values further afield. I am saddened that such PC cr*p has extended this far, but I have also seen far worse examples of 'racist overtones' elsewhere on these boards. Perhaps you had better continue your witch hunt elsewhere.

    And if there are any Scottish posters here who genuinely feel racially abused - then I abjectly apologise.
    I am in no way an adovocate of Political Correctness. I was merely looking for a way in which to politely call you a c*nt.

    And you can stick your apology up your arrse, you bell end.
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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

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    If you weren't such a d*ckhead with your racist overtones, a few more of the 'Jocks' may accept what it is that you are trying to say, but in your effort to sound funny, you sort of lose the meaning of your arguement.
    This is / was called banter. 'Racism' between the constituent parts of Great Britain was completely unheard of until the precious advocates of the politically correct decided to extend their meaningless middle class values further afield. I am saddened that such PC cr*p has extended this far, but I have also seen far worse examples of 'racist overtones' elsewhere on these boards. Perhaps you had better continue your witch hunt elsewhere.

    And if there are any Scottish posters here who genuinely feel racially abused - then I abjectly apologise.
    I am in no way an adovocate of Political Correctness. I was merely looking for a way in which to politely call you a c*nt.

    And you can stick your apology up your arrse, you bell end.
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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    Quote Originally Posted by vandyke
    Scotland has always had a very high percentage whithin the british army. Our loyalty has never been doubted but we get nothing in return.
    Mate I'm not Scots but I have vocally supported your campaign and my own Regts campaign in Wales. At least you bloke get to keep a couple of Bn in Scotland. There will be no reg Welsh Bns in Wales. And don't bleat about getting nothing back from the British Army, it's embarrassing and well wide of the mark. What do you want back? we are all taking the cuts not just the Scots.
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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    Now now chaps.....we've been through all this before...

    20% of the Army are Scots but 10% are Fijians and other miscellaneous Commonwealth etc....there are 47 Fijians in 1 HLDRS, with similar figures often higher in ALL the other regiments of the Division. Indeed I hear that 1 PWRR have over 100 Fijians, so we DO have a massive recruiting problem in all regiments.

    One example given of a home base is that of Fort George by Inverness - I've found that most actually like it up there as the area is nice, the city is growing rapidly and local facilities and shopping are now great with lots of jobs for the wives. However the theory that you are left alone up there by the Arms Plot boys no longer applies as the R IRISH are just back from Iraq and possibly heading almost straight out to another location! At least the majority of the Black Watch can head straight down the A9 to home at the weekends and be there a darned sight quicker than at present. It might actually help retention but not recruiting.

    Have you seen the new cap badges for the Duke of Lancs and the RRS? Size of dinner plates!
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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    Quote Originally Posted by vandyke
    Scotland has always had a very high percentage whithin the british army. Our loyalty has never been doubted but we get nothing in return.
    Ahem! 'You' get paid! (and clothed and housed)

    Which, in many cases, is more than would happen if 'you' weren't kept off the streets by joining up. Traditionally the poorer areas of the country provide disproportionately more 'volunteers' simply because there is nothing else to do! Mind you, it is the generous tax payer of the Home Counties that pays disproportionally more tax to either keep 'you' in the ranks or on the dole.

    I wonder what the cheaper option would be?....
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    Sorry, I know it's bad form to follow one post with another, but this has really pished me off!

    The advantage of the 'New' system, as I see it, will be that people will be trickle posted through the various battalions. What's wrong with that? Having suffered several 'Block moves', Trickle posting around several stations picking up a breadth of experience would seem to be a good thing!

    The rest of the Army manages, for Fcuks sake. Jock Line Infantrymen can not bleat about being posted too far from home. Take a squint at 2PWRR as an example: Tern Hill to Iraq to Ballykelly - they're hardly 'home' postings. What about itinerent Jocks that serve in, say, the REME or Gunners or Catering Corps - there's plenty of 'em. They just get on with it. As do the Jock Guards, come to that, and those in the Paras, Navy, Royal Marines etc.

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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storeman Norman
    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB
    If you weren't such a d*ckhead with your racist overtones, a few more of the 'Jocks' may accept what it is that you are trying to say, but in your effort to sound funny, you sort of lose the meaning of your arguement.
    This is / was called banter. 'Racism' between the constituent parts of Great Britain was completely unheard of until the precious advocates of the politically correct decided to extend their meaningless middle class values further afield. I am saddened that such PC cr*p has extended this far, but I have also seen far worse examples of 'racist overtones' elsewhere on these boards. Perhaps you had better continue your witch hunt elsewhere.

    And if there are any Scottish posters here who genuinely feel racially abused - then I abjectly apologise.
    I am in no way an adovocate of Political Correctness. I was merely looking for a way in which to politely call you a c*nt.

    And you can stick your apology up your arrse, you bell end.
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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjaminw1
    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB
    Quote Originally Posted by Storeman Norman
    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuits_AB
    If you weren't such a d*ckhead with your racist overtones, a few more of the 'Jocks' may accept what it is that you are trying to say, but in your effort to sound funny, you sort of lose the meaning of your arguement.
    This is / was called banter. 'Racism' between the constituent parts of Great Britain was completely unheard of until the precious advocates of the politically correct decided to extend their meaningless middle class values further afield. I am saddened that such PC cr*p has extended this far, but I have also seen far worse examples of 'racist overtones' elsewhere on these boards. Perhaps you had better continue your witch hunt elsewhere.

    And if there are any Scottish posters here who genuinely feel racially abused - then I abjectly apologise.
    I am in no way an adovocate of Political Correctness. I was merely looking for a way in which to politely call you a c*nt.

    And you can stick your apology up your arrse, you bell end.
    Whinging Scotch Tw@t
    From Streatham? You and Storeman should start a double act. Fackin right pair of Charlies.
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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    Benjamin thing and biscuit thing, could you do more than just copy the pages of crap to each others entry. It wastes time scrolling. Can you try joined up writing like wot officers are taught and string a whole sentance together.

    I agree that recruitment tends to come from some poorer areas but how come all the dickheads from the posh areas go to the nursery at sandhurst and we, the smarter ones, end up really running the army.

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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    Quote Originally Posted by bobos
    Benjamin thing and biscuit thing, could you do more than just copy the pages of crap to each others entry. It wastes time scrolling. Can you try joined up writing like wot officers are taught and string a whole sentance together.

    I agree that recruitment tends to come from some poorer areas but how come all the dickheads from the posh areas go to the nursery at sandhurst and we, the smarter ones, end up really running the army.

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    Come my boys, my brave boys, let us pray heartily and fight heartily. I will run the same hazards and fortunes with you. Remember the cause is for God, and for the defence of yourselves, your wives, your children. Come, my honest brave boys, pray heartily and fight heartily, and God will bless us.

    Dyas and the Stormers!

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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    Biscuits_AB and Vandyke

    What a pair of tw*ts . You're no better than anyone else so stop playing the Scottish Card for sympathy. I don't give a monkeys about what part of BRITAIN you come from, every new Regt is going to have to take some pain so just get used to it or walk away. Hope you both get to go to Fally for many happy years.
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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    FFS,

    Could the c0ck-fest stop? For anyone new to the site or the forum, take a second to reread some of the already overly-long threads on this issue.

    And as for my tuppence, the Jock Bns should count themselves lucky that they are so well supported within the pathetically-over-sympathetic-vote-pandering politicos who decided not to axe, that's right, axe, a second Scottish bn based on the evidence used for paring down the Regiments under FIS. Yes of course the whole FIS thing sucks to any Infantryman, but take a look at yourselves and stop bleating. Your recruiting is toss, and before anyone jumps in with the 'well that's because they stopped entry last year', don't. The figures were spread over the previous 10 years. These indicated that of the 10 worst recriuited Bns in the Inf, 6, that's right, 6 were Scottish, and they were not in the lower order of the 10 either (figures from DInf). Second, how many 'English' 'Welsh' and 'Irish' regiments have been amalgamated / renamed / badged or whatever and haven't folded or become 'Corps-like' in their outlooks? With the odd exception, pretty much none, you'll find is the answer.

    Get on with it and make your new, and rightly proud, regiments work. As has been said before, you don't like it, you know where to sign.

    And as for the post-quoters, cut it out or sort out your differences in the colonel quadaffi or in chat.
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    Re: Royal Regiment of Scotland (and England, and Germany...)

    Post of the year Dog Monkey!

    1 HLDRS chuffed to bits to have Fally, as it puts them on the AI roster, and saves them (yes they were 3rd out of the top 6 worst recruited bns) fm being chopped/or amalgamated.

    Great bn nevertheless, and I say that fm experiece.

    Elsewhere A&SH manning falling through the floor, with insufficient to fill even the Op OCULUS (B) FET, whilst the bn that replaced them have taken on both OCULUS (B) and OCULUS (K). The pain of backfilling them was felt by a number of other units.

    The message should have been Save The Regiment....by Joining It!
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    Edited for being a completely bone post. Don't do it again.

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