Discuss TSW/TC with para wings in Infantry on The Army Rumour Service; Check out this balls i found on a RAF site. This matt fella has a point.
http://www.e-goat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=378...
i do have to take issue with the whole wings/maroon beret thing,now hear me out before i get shot to pieces.
the maroon beret was designed in ww2 and was decided as the headress to be worn by all airborne forces whether it be para reg lads or glider troops or support troops. over the years this turned into something that was earned for doing 'p' company,with the formation of 16aa brig this whole airborne concept was reintroduced.the orignal letter of inaugaration of 16aa brig is still in the ord office so i know im right cos i read it recently,this stated the fact about the berets.and if im not mistaken,do para reg crows who've yet to pass 'p' comp not get to wear the maroon lid???????
the lads who work in support of sf even wear the pasty because that beret was decided as the headress of the regiment not for doing selection and continuation training.
now onto the wings thing i have several points to clear up, military parachuting wings are worn by all service members who have passed the parachute training course at p.t.s at brize. to get on that course you must of first of completed a form of arduos training i.e 'p' comp,commando,sas,raf regt.
special dispensation maybe granted to servicemen who may need to parachute into a theatre of operations to undertake a specific role i.e doctors,dentists,tcw/tsw,so on and so forth.in the old days the light bulb would of been worn but this badge is now defunct so as you can see the blue badge of courage is what they wear.
have also read afew threads about ta lads who have to undergo 'p' comp,pts all over again when enlisting as a regular WHY??? what a waste of money. they have done a form of arduos training.and lobbed in from a herc.
now onto my own personal thoughts on the subject.if you have done'p' comp then you have truly earned your wings,to see it worn by a stacker is bad drills,but look on the bright side no chicks wear them yet.
on the beret side of things,i can see how annoying it is to see some fat splasher/agc clerk wear it but most troops in 16 aa brig would rather not wear it as alot feel they haven't earned it.
now onto the stab thing,let them wear they're wings,they earnt them,and as for doin 'p' comp, let them do it if they wish, lets face it they have to sit in the bar with the rest of the lads who have done the proper 'p' comp.
Does anyone know if that 'lightbulb' badge still exists, because I've never seen it. I still can't believe these RAF guys can wear para wings when they don't even have to do any form of selection course.
I'm led to believe that the TA Rangers are now part of 16 AAB and it's bods can have a bash at P coy, i'm a little old fashioned in my view's but, if your ass aint done AACC, P Coy or SF selection then you ain't wearing the wings!!! and any walts who try to wear them when they are with the Rangers needs to stand by if we find out I can understand Para chaps getting a boner about walts wearing wings, you should see some of the tossers wearing the Caubeen! and god forbid, some are regulars
Does anyone know if that 'lightbulb' badge still exists, because I've never seen it. I still can't believe these RAF guys can wear para wings when they don't even have to do any form of selection course.
The ol' lightbulb is still making an appearance now and then. My mate sewed his on his wooly pully a few years back. It disappeared the next day coz of the crap he took.
If you've done the jumps course at Brize, passed and bailed out of a C130 then your entitled to wear wings.....
You've earned the wings just the same as anyone else, so whats the problem? What, sorry only the big bad hard Para's can wear them? b0llox....
I think he has a fooking cheek to say they haven't earned them, if he thinks jumping out of a perfectly good aircraft is easy, I'm begining to doubt he is what he says, my Grandad and my uncle were PARAS, as hard a men as they come and they'll be the first to tell you it's not easy....
He's got a bee in his bonnet because somebody else other than him (supposedly) has had the bottle to do the jumps course....
most of the people in the army can not pass P company, otherwise everyone would be winged up.
What makes him think everyone wants to be a Para or Airbrorne qualified?
Grow up and get a life you sad w@nker....
now onto the stab thing,let them wear they're wings,they earnt them,and as for doin 'p' comp, let them do it if they wish, lets face it they have to sit in the bar with the rest of the lads who have done the proper 'p' comp.
They also have to sit in a bar with lads who they can serve with and do the same job as they do....Sorry, I forgot, we're all high and mighty here....sorry, I'll take my STAB arrse home....
sorry kingo, no offence was meant with the STAB word,u andy mcnabs need to chill (only joking) if you read the thread correctly i was actually defending the ta(which is rare for a regular).i was merely pointing to the fact that a no of ta personnel who go onto join the regulars are often stopped from wearing their wings as it was a ta course that they did,i have a couple of mates who are ex para reg(ta)and when they joined up were told they could only wear their wings if they redone 'p' comp.'the proper one'
i thought we were 1 army and all that jazz.
TA P-coy/ Reg P-coy, it doesn't matter in my eyes. We had TA guys do P-coy alongside our platoon and they went balls out, and got some belting times on the assault course. On one of the the logs there was just two of them left and they still past a group of four - fukcing credit to em. Real P-coy? Ok so no 20 miler, but when talking to a PSI from 4 para, they make up for that when battalion.
TA P-coy/ Reg P-coy, it doesn't matter in my eyes. We had TA guys do P-coy alongside our platoon and they went balls out, and got some belting times on the assault course. On one of the the logs there was just two of them left and they still past a group of four - fukcing credit to em. Real P-coy? Ok so no 20 miler, but when talking to a PSI from 4 para, they make up for that when battalion.
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