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Discuss New infantry titles confirmed in Infantry on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by Burgers You can't call them the Wessex Rifles 2/3rds of the LI come from County Duham and Yorkshire and even the Jackets mostly recruit from Fijii. The rest come from London , ...
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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Burgers
    You can't call them the Wessex Rifles

    2/3rds of the LI come from County Duham and Yorkshire and even the Jackets mostly recruit from Fijii. The rest come from London, Ox and Bucks (hence the original title) or Shropshire.

    Just because the D and D's and the Alphabet regiment has joined in does not make the Rifles even vaguely Wessex based. It just means that now the Light Div can recruit from ALL OVER THE COMMONWEALTH

    It's a matter of time before they work their way into East Anglia...
    Commonwealth Rifles it is then! there is one way all could keep their former symbols of identity:

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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by buges
    Yes stickybomb, 43rd (Oxs) 52nd (Bucks) that goes without saying.
    Not quite, its the other way around but never mind. The 2nd Bn were colloquially known as the 52nd during WW2 and probably were up until amalgamation.
    I can't think that they will insist on changing crossbelts; they never did before. However, I took Gen Cottam's letter to say that the belt would bear a Maltese Cross -- no mention of the whole RGJ badge. Looks like we still lose the crowns and laurels.
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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    Anyone think this page is in need of updating?

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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    Stickybomb: Sorry mate, but you are wrong, it is :

    43rd Oxs and 52nd Bucks.

    If thats the case with the cross belts, i know someone thats going to be very pi55ed off, hes just brought a leather cross belt with solid siler
    RB badges on, cost him a small fortune.

    ha ha ha, i always said he had to much money.

    Bad CO - instead of updating the page my friend, simply read a different one. i'm sorry but there is going to be alot of change and people need to talk about it.

    Actually your right: it is boring - but what the hell !!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    Oooppppsssss, missed the "V" out of silVer.
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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    From the RGJ website:


    "We aim to be the black button regiment at the forefront of military thinking and with each of our five regular battalions in vital, operational roles.

    We must acknowledge the origins, history and important regional links of the former regiments coming together in this very positive move. They all serve to underpin the national identity that will belong to The Rifles. At the same time there is complete and generous agreement that to be a rifle regiment, no colours will be carried, and the capbadge will be in the style of the Light Infantry bugle, with no red backing. A Maltese Cross worn on the cross belt or waist belts of every Rifleman, will carry the key battle honours of the former regiments."
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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    There is some good news about the new titles.

    1. The horrible multi-badge TA regiments have gone and now all (less LONDONS) are battalions of parent regiments.

    2. The move of LONDONS to Guards Div does make sense. Personally I would prefer if thet adopted their own single cap badge. There is no reason to be multi-badged. The LONDONS can claim a direct decendency of the largest infantry regiment of all times with plenty of battle honours (although it was multi-badged itself).

    3. Once the HS battalions of the R IRISH have gone, it would be good to rename the RANGERS as per R IRISH.

    I will not comment on the actual names of the new regiments, but as per the above I think it is progress for the inf as a whole.

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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    but spare a thought for the TA units that are being re-badged. It must be hard for them to lose their heritage. I wonder how many will leave over this.
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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Burgers
    2/3rds of the LI come from County Duham and Yorkshire and even the Jackets mostly recruit from Fijii. The rest come from London, Ox and Bucks (hence the original title) or Shropshire.
    Probably make that 1/3rd from Durham, would a West Riding recruit join a Southern 'English' regiment or join the Yorkshire Regiment? I am ignoring any family history (which would be another factor) but how much PR is the local media going to give a 'foreign' regiment over the Yorkshire Regiment.
    Even parts of Lincolnshire, Derbys and Notts will think the Yorks are their local regiment (and not the Anglians/Mericians)

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    Re: New infantry titles confirmed

    43rd Monmouthshire and 52nd Oxfordshire amalgamated into the Oxfordshire Light Infantry (43rd/ 52nd).

    The 52nd (and Ox LI) recruited from Buckinghamshire and the Regiment was renamed on absorbing the Buckinghamshire elements of the TF in 1908.
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