- 28-02-2011, 14:29 #1
- Join Date
- Apr 2004
SA80A2 described as "dead technology" by RM Officer in Globe & Laurel
Article reference here.
Bearing in mind the number of ARRSErs who frequently speak favourably of the L1A1SLR of yore, I took to browsing around the 'net and I came across this Brazilian version of the FN FAL by IMBEL. A pointless argument I'm sure, but considering its calibre and size, might not a case exist for re-quipping with this beauty...? I know, I know, the version pictured is probably a 'brochure version' which only Russian mafiya types and African dictators would actually want, but it ticks a lot of boxes the SA80A2 doesn't.
As an aside, I was surprised at the number of militaries that still use the FN FAL or versions/derivatives thereof.Any statements I make while using this website are purely of my own opinion and are not to be construed as statements of fact and are not said with any intended malice. My opinions are a reflection of my earned right to freedom of expression and speech and do not necessarily reflect that of the site owners.
- 28-02-2011, 14:33 #2
Career abort mine?Who me?
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time!
- 28-02-2011, 14:36 #3
- Join Date
- Feb 2005
The mags above look like STANAG 4179 30x5.56 types, but the one fitted looks like a 20x7.62 type.
The ejection opening looks more like 5.56 too.
- 28-02-2011, 14:37 #4
An what to do with the SA80? sell the lot to 'Col' Ghaddafi?Teri maan di phuddi vich manji daah key teri bhain di phuddi maroonga !
- 28-02-2011, 14:37 #5
Last edited by Jungelism; 28-02-2011 at 14:40.
- 28-02-2011, 14:40 #6
While living in the states I went shooting with my boss who was a gun nut to say the least. His gun cabinet reminded me of the the chap from Tremors. Anyway, because we were in Nevada the gun club were allowed to lets us use full autos.
Anyway, long story short the had a SA58 which is a compact FN FAL made on licence by an American firm. Loved it and surprisingly the much feared recoil wasnt that bad.
Work pc wont allow me to post pics but google DS SA58.
Last edited by steven seagull; 28-02-2011 at 14:42.Steven Seagull is a rotten, intenet bully, a seventh generation cunt, he was born in a state of misery, half-cooked with a mean streak a mile wide. Over the years he has developed a passion for human oddities, presdigitation, tattooing and torture.
- 28-02-2011, 15:02 #7
"acting on reports that the weapon is too lightweight.." what the fuck? I didn't think that was possible as far as an infanteer was concerned?!
OR they were talking about the weapons ballistic characteristic.RAC(TA) - 2006-2009
Royal Navy - 2009 +
Sir Walter Raleigh declared in the early 17th century that "whoever commands the sea, commands the trade; whosoever commands the trade of the world commands the riches of the world, and consequently the world itself." This principle is as true today as when uttered, and its effect will continue as long as ships traverse the seas."
- 28-02-2011, 15:04 #8
Love the quote...
"A spokesman for the MoD said the SA80 A2 "is recognised as one of the best assault rifles in the world" and that a range of weapons were available to frontline troops."
- 28-02-2011, 15:07 #9
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. We know what kind of article this is when we read the following paragraph...
The MoD acted on concerns that the latest version was too lightweight, adding new features including a grenade launcher and new sights.
I think Captain SA Jones has been rather misquoted, especially the bit about Taliban fighters getting hit "15 times before dying".
As someone who has been to Afghanistan, and been in contact or two I often laugh heartily at the way some people suggest (Usually people that tend not to have done any of the above) that 5.56 is somehow a weak and useless round. It's ridiculous.
It does it's job perfectly well. Yes at long range it lacks a certain penetrative power but frankly if I'm going to be engaging something at 300-400m that has a modicum of protection I'm going to be using something that has a bit more welly behind it! Also given the weight cost and the rate we go through ammunition in an average contact over there I'd rather have the increased ammo capacity thanks very much!
Though a LIGHTER rifle would be nice.
Last edited by soldier.a; 28-02-2011 at 15:09.
- 28-02-2011, 15:10 #10
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
upgrade 40,42 and 45 and para to c8 carbine or G3!
leave SA80 for line