ARmy Rumour SErvice

**Highflight** · 09-09-2007, 09:45

Why, oh why do we treat people who serve us so badly?. I name the wounded servicemen, the equipment they are not issued, their families, in particular the disgraceful time taken to instigate a corners court and the gurkha soldiers.

In a country that spends/wastes millions on all sorts of projects/social incentives, the government can't spend a little more where it is required. We are not talking about large sums of money here.

To me it smacks of a proper lack of priorities and a country in moral decline, especially by those who 'lead' us, ie politicians and military leaders more interested in their careers, than the welfare of the service personal under them.

I am ashamed of how we treat our 'heroes'. Prisoners get better treatment. The problem is is it differcult to get them to do anything about it. Publicity seems to be the answer and the shaming of those 'worthies' who think so much of themselves.

**TalaveraTom** · 24-04-2009, 22:35

Originally Posted by Highflight

Why, oh why do we treat people who serve us so badly?. I name the wounded servicemen, the equipment they are not issued, their families, in particular the disgraceful time taken to instigate a corners court and the gurkha soldiers.

In a country that spends/wastes millions on all sorts of projects/social incentives, the government can't spend a little more where it is required. We are not talking about large sums of money here.

To me it smacks of a proper lack of priorities and a country in moral decline, especially by those who 'lead' us, ie politicians and military leaders more interested in their careers, than the welfare of the service personal under them.

I am ashamed of how we treat our 'heroes'. Prisoners get better treatment. The problem is is it differcult to get them to do anything about it. Publicity seems to be the answer and the shaming of those 'worthies' who think so much of themselves.

Judging by the disgraceful goings on at Westminster today...I am proud to have served my country but ashamed of the way it has treated our Gurkha brothers and their families. Fellow servicemen/women appreciate you, even if the government don't!!

**Pronto_Mike_Uniform** · 24-04-2009, 22:49

Originally Posted by TalaveraTom

Originally Posted by Highflight

Why, oh why do we treat people who serve us so badly?. I name the wounded servicemen, the equipment they are not issued, their families, in particular the disgraceful time taken to instigate a corners court and the gurkha soldiers.

In a country that spends/wastes millions on all sorts of projects/social incentives, the government can't spend a little more where it is required. We are not talking about large sums of money here.

To me it smacks of a proper lack of priorities and a country in moral decline, especially by those who 'lead' us, ie politicians and military leaders more interested in their careers, than the welfare of the service personal under them.

I am ashamed of how we treat our 'heroes'. Prisoners get better treatment. The problem is is it differcult to get them to do anything about it. Publicity seems to be the answer and the shaming of those 'worthies' who think so much of themselves.

Judging by the disgraceful goings on at Westminster today...I am proud to have served my country but ashamed of the way it has treated our Gurkha brothers and their families. Fellow servicemen/women appreciate you, even if the government don't!!

Two words on the government decision:

F(u)cking disgraceful!

**ChinaArmy** · 01-06-2009, 12:01

a. Pensions – Currently Gurkha soldiers having completed 15 years service receive on retirement a pension (index linked) equivalent to a middle managers wage in Nepal paid immediately. Now I know there has been uproar since the year dot about Gurkha pensions being tiny in comparison to UKTAP pensions so, second guessing the GTACOS review I suspect that Gurkha soldiers and officers currently serving will be given the option to change to AFPS 05 (See HERE for details) and new recruits will be automatically placed on AFPS 05. Great equality you might say, Gurkhas can now serve 22 years and have the chance of a full career and receive the pension they fully deserve with exact equality to UKTAP, yes that’s correct, no immediate pension at the 22 year point (or 15 year point for that matter) Early Departure Payments paid from age 55 (providing that you have served a minimum of 18 years and reach the age of 40 in service) and your full pension entitlement kicking in at 65 (providing you meet the above criteria of course). Gurkhas better off? Now for the real kick in the teeth.

Is it really? What is this so called acturial value. Only 28% of the service prior to 1997 is counted towards the pension and paid accordingly. An individual who served in Hong Kong for 14 years has a service of 3 and half years only.