What I have noticed is that twitching does appear to provide an advantage but only really when you have lots of solo players, I often get my arrse handed to me in BFBC2 but occasionally get some nice kill streaks.

However, when I play with with people I know, as a team, I tend to do alot better. Good team play can counter the reaction speed of the younger generation, not all the time, but I definately see better overall stats for myself when I play with a team where we know each others strengths and weaknesses.

I remember many moons ago when I used to play Typhoon Rising with guys from work, unfortunately I was the only one who lived 'out in the sticks' and was on dialup still when they were on broadband. I was a constant source of entertainment ingame, when I would run up behind one of the them, unload a full clip into the back of their head only to have them turn around and knife me. When you watched the replay I normally didn't even get a shot off, now thats proper lag

Lag is the biggest cause of frustration on the COD games. Its getting to the point where its taking a full mag c/w with a squillion hit markers to kill any 1.

I occasionally play MW2 and BFBC2, with my teenage son on line.

I am usually in the positives but not by much. He is unbelievably good at it, not only does he know exactly where to be his reactions are so much quicker, with him averaging 60-70 kills a game for negligble deaths.

He is repeatedly accused of using a modded controller but he doesn't. He even takes out whole teams of Yank kids playing snipers with a pistol. At the same time he will be sending messages to his mates on his mobile and/or laptop.

He says i play MW2 too realistic, i.e. i cower on corners and move too slowly, plus i look where you would expect a real person to be, so i don't see the 12 yr old hid behind a cardboard box in the open.

However i am far better on BFBC2, though i am nearly always a sniper as again in close up fighting i do not have the twitch responses required to be as quick as younger players.

Just wish they would ban under 18s from the online game.

Are there that many people out there on consoles with aimbots?
I usually find that people who lack the skills and do badly tend to accuse people who annihilate them of this when it's usually down to the fact that they are playing against a 12 year old ninja master frothing at the mouth on lucozade and jelly tots who has the added advantage of hosting the server and therefore lag has played a part too.
I must admit that when I first started playing FPS on my first console i did this, "they must be cheating, they're killing me as soon as I spawn".
In reality, they just had all the weapons and skills, I was a noob with no weapons or power-ups.

They are few and far between Billy thank god and its fairly easy to spot thanks to the killcam feature .

I also use killcam as a guage of how much lag im getting

I dont mind being outplayed as Im not good at all but 1-2 seconds is taking the mickey as an advantage

I agree 4EM, I'm just get pwned cos I'm getting old, that's my excuse.

I agree with the opinion also that on most mainstream games, using proper military techniques and doctrine will get you killed easier than 'spraying and paying'.

I think it's a , mixture of both reaction time and skill that makes a better individual gamer, but for team games skill beats all. You can't twitch yourself out of a team take down.

Originally Posted by Drifter21

Just wish they would ban under 18s from the online game.

Gets my tentative vote in fact i'd boost it to 31 min age so I would be the youngster for a change :P

Originally Posted by tommyhutch

Trivial I know but a team (usually of 6-8 players) wins after 75 kills so unless your son is Jesus Himself or the other team members are playing with their feet then that seems like a very high average score.

Maybe he's playing domination or summat like.

Nice ratio but hardly playing the game objective (which isnt exactly news )

OP: good post.

Expert twitchers hand me my ass every time which is why I gave up on Day of Defeat. But in a game of skill and teamwork like Red Orchestra I can put in some respectable performances and get real enjoyment.