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    Woodlouse and which laptop?

    PART 1

    My printer wouldn't feed properly, so I entered the symptoms into Google. Obviously, it was due to one of the kids pulling the paper back through the machine while it was printing - this caused a sensor to bend.

    Bent sensor = repair and downtime = cheaper to buy a new printer.

    BUT NO! Puttees thought he could open the printer, bend the sensor back and save a few quid.

    It took a while to find all the screws that held it together (and on completion had 2 screws left, so had to open it all up again) but I couldn't find anything wrong - apart from a woodlouse carcass jammed between two bits of plastic. Removed woodlouse, put back together (eventually) and it seems to be working perfectly. YIPPEE! Up yours, geeks. You didn't think of that, did you?

    PART 2

    Now, being aware that ARRSE geeks are of a totally different calibre to internet geeks, I need help in making a decision.

    I'm faced with buying my daughter a laptop for her university work. I don't know why her current laptop isn't up to the job, but hey - what do I know?

    I've narrowed it down to two choices, both Toshiba.

    One is the L500-1DT T3000 4GB 320GB 15.6", the other is the L300-29W T4200 3GB 250GB 15.4".

    The former has a 50 minute longer battery life, bigger RAM and hard drive and a numeric keypad, but the other has (according to the internet geeks) a better processor and is 300g lighter. The first has Windows 7, the other has a free user-installed upgrade to Windows 7.

    There's not a significant difference in price..

    So, is the difference in processors that relevant? Will the additional RAM outweigh that difference?
    "Hurrah for the Works Group" just doesn't have the same ring...

    "A volunteer is worth ten pressed men."
    So, a TA battalion or nine Regular Guards battalions? Not a difficult choice, then (especially as we don't have nine Regular Guards battalions).

    I am a number. I am not a free man.

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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    Oodles of data from Tosh's own website below for the spotters.

    The 300-29W is a discontinued line, so I have also added the 300-29V (only available from John Lewis which is quite similar).

    On gut instinct I would go for the 300 29W, dependant on price, as it has the better processor, and memory and HDs can always be up graded. However it has a slightly smaller screen (1280 x 800 versus 1366 x 76, but the same resolution outputs to a monitor.


    The full blurb follows but my choice would be to go for this one:

    Satellite L500-19X
    A faster Pentium processor than the 300-29W, but with the slightly larger screen of the other two. Book price 50 squibs more at £449 inc from the same outlets.

    Lappy data:

    Satellite L500-1DT

    Price £ 399.00 (inc VAT)



    Operating system
    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit (pre-installed, Toshiba-HDD recovery) and
    Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 32-bit (Toshiba-Recovery DVD)

    Processor
    Intel® Celeron® Processor T3000 | clock speed : 1.80 GHz | Front Side Bus : 800 MHz | 2nd level cache : 1 MB

    Design Colour
    Aluminium Silver with black keyboard

    System memory
    4,096 (2,048 + 2,04 MB | maximum expandability : 4,096 MB | technology : DDR2 RAM (800 MHz)

    Hard disk
    320 GB

    DVD Super Multi drive (Double Layer)

    Display
    15.6 " | Toshiba TruBrite® HD TFT High Brightness display with 16:9 aspect ratio

    Graphics adaptor
    Intel® | Mobile Intel® GMA 4500M

    Battery
    maximum life : up to 3h20min (Mobile Markâ„¢ 2007)

    Physical dimensions
    weight : starting at 2.72 kg | W x D x H : 383 x 259 x 35.5 (front) / 39.3 (rear) mm

    Wireless communication
    Wireless Technology : Wireless LAN

    Warranty
    1 year EMEA Carry-in. Toshiba also offers a large range of services to upgrade your standard warranty, please have a look at our website www.toshiba-europe.com/services to find the right service for your product.

    Toshiba EasyMedia
    Easy Entertainment | HDMI-out |
    Easy Connectivity | Toshiba Face Recognition | Built-in Web Camera & Microphone | Diversity Antenna | Integrated Bridge Media Adapter | |
    Easy Usability | Eco Utility | PC Health Monitor | Toshiba LifeSpace | Mcafee® Internet Security | Toshiba TEMPRO Performance Tuning Service | Touch Pad with Multi-Touch Control | Smart Display Support

    Special features
    SM BIOS compliant | HD Audio support | integrated microphone for Voice over IP | integrated VGA Web Camera for Video over IP | ENERGY STAR qualified computer


    Satellite L300-29V

    Price £ 399.00 (inc VAT)



    Operating system
    Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 32-bit Edition (pre-installed, Toshiba-HDD recovery)

    Processor
    Intel® Celeron® Processor T3000 | clock speed : 1.80 GHz | Front Side Bus : 800 MHz | 2nd level cache : 1 MB

    System memory
    3,072 (2,048 + 1,024) MB | maximum expandability : 4,096 MB | technology : DDR2 RAM (800 MHz)

    Hard disk
    250 GB

    DVD Super Multi drive (Double Layer)

    Display
    15.4 " | Toshiba TruBrite® WXGA TFT High Brightness display

    Graphics adaptor
    Intel® | Mobile Intel® GMA 4500M

    Battery
    maximum life : up to 2h30min (Mobile Markâ„¢ 2007)

    Physical dimensions
    weight : starting at 2.49 kg | W x D x H : 362 x 267 x 33.0 (front) / 37.7 (rear) mm

    Wireless communication
    Wireless Technology : Wireless LAN

    Warranty
    1-year international warranty. Upgrade your standard warranty with Toshiba warranty extension, uplift and all-risks insurance packs.

    Toshiba EasyMedia
    Toshiba ConfigFree™ | Google Software (Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Desktop, Picasa) | Mcafee® Internet Security Suite - Toshiba Edition | Toshiba Face Recognition | Smart Display Support | Internal HD 720p support | Toshiba TEMPRO Performance Tuning Service | Diversity Antenna | Built-in camera & microphone | Toshiba Flash Cards

    Special features
    SM BIOS compliant | Multimedia Bar with 6 touch Easy Keys (Mute, Rewind, Play, Stop, Forward, CD/DVD launcher) | integrated VGA Web Camera for Video over IP | integrated microphone for Voice over IP | HD Audio support

    Satellite L300-29W

    Discontinued


    Part Number : PSLB8E-15R007EN
    Key Features
    Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 32-bit Edition (pre-installed, Toshiba-HDD recovery)- Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor T4200- DVD-RW SuperMulti drive (Double Layer)- 3072 MB (2048+ 1024) DDR RAM (800MHz)- 15.4" Widescreen TruBrite® XGA (1280 x 800) High Brightness display

    Processor type : Intel® Pentium® dual-core processor T4200
    clock speed : 2.00 GHz
    Front Side Bus : 800 MHz
    2nd level cache : 1 MB
    Operating system
    Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 32-bit Edition (pre-installed, Toshiba-HDD recovery)

    System memory standard : 3,072 (2,048 + 1,024) MB
    maximum expandability : 4,096 MB
    technology : DDR2 RAM (800 MHz)
    Hard disk capacity : 250 GB
    certification : S.M.A.R.T.
    drive rotation : 5,400 rpm
    DVD Super Multi drive (Double Layer) compatibility : CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-R(DL), DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R(DL), DVD+RW, DVD-RAM
    maximum speed : Read: 24x CD-ROM, 8x DVD-ROM/ Write: 24x CD-R, 4x CD-RW, 10x HS CD-RW, 24x US CD-RW, 8x DVD-R, 6x DVD-R (Double Layer), 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+R, 6x DVD+R (Double Layer), 8x DVD+RW, 5x DVD-RAM
    type : DVD Super Multi (Double Layer) drive
    Display size : 15.4 "
    type : Toshiba TruBrite® WXGA TFT High Brightness display
    internal resolution : 1,280 x 800
    Graphics adaptor manufacturer : Intel®
    type : Mobile Intel® GMA 4500M
    memory : up to 1,340 MB total available graphics memory with 3 GB system memory
    memory type : shared
    Internal video modes The following internal video modes are supported:
    resolution : 1,280 x 800
    Max External Video Modes Max Resolution : 2,048 x 1,536
    Max Refresh Rate : 85 Hz
    Non-interlaced resolution with max refresh rate : 1,600 x 1,200
    Interfaces 1 x DC-in
    1 x external monitor
    1 x RJ-11
    1 x RJ-45
    1 x external microphone
    1 x headphone (stereo)
    3 (Left 2, Right 1) x USB 2.0
    1 x integrated VGA Web Camera with built-in microphone
    Expansion 2 x memory slots (1 to configure)
    1 x ExpressCard slot
    Wireless communication Compliancy : Wi-Fi®
    Network Support : 802.11b/g
    Wireless Technology : Wireless LAN
    Wired communication topology : Fast Ethernet LAN
    speed : 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX
    topology : international V.90 modem (V.92 ready)
    speed : 56 Kbps data and 14.4 Kbps fax
    Sound system supported audio format : 24-bit stereo
    speakers : built-in stereo speaker
    manufacturer : Toshiba Bass Enhanced Sound System
    Keyboard keys : 87
    Windows keys : Yes
    Pointing device type : Touch Pad
    Battery technology : lithium-ion
    maximum life : up to 2h30min (Mobile Markâ„¢ 2007)
    AC adaptor input voltage : autosensing AC adapter (100/240 V) for worldwide usage
    Physical dimensions W x D x H : 362 x 267 x 33.0 (front) / 37.7 (rear) mm
    weight : starting at 2.49 kg
    Warranty 1-year international warranty. Upgrade your standard warranty with Toshiba warranty extension, uplift and all-risks insurance packs.
    Bundled hardware AC adaptor
    Bundled software Toshiba Disc Creator
    Toshiba User's Manual
    Supervisor Password Utility
    Toshiba Assist
    Chicony Camera Assistant Software
    Toshiba DVD Player
    Ulead® DVD MovieFactory® for Toshiba
    Toshiba Face Recognition
    Mcafee® Internet Security Suite - Toshiba Edition (includes free Internet updates for 30 days)
    Toshiba Recovery Disc Creator
    Microsoft® Works, Microsoft® Office Home and Student 2007 (free 60-day trial)
    Toshiba Value Added Package (Toshiba Power Saver, Toshiba Zooming Utility, Toshiba PC Diagnostic Tool, Toshiba Flash Cards, Toshiba Components Common Driver, Toshiba Accessibility, Toshiba Button Support)
    Google Software (Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Desktop, Picasa)
    Connectivity Doctor
    ConfigFreeâ„¢
    Toshiba utilities and drivers
    Toshiba EasyMedia Google Software (Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Desktop, Picasa)
    Toshiba TEMPRO Performance Tuning Service
    Mcafee® Internet Security Suite - Toshiba Edition
    Toshiba Face Recognition
    Smart Display Support
    Toshiba Flash Cards
    Built-in camera & microphone
    Diversity Antenna
    Toshiba ConfigFreeâ„¢
    Internal HD 720p support
    Security features main battery pack (by sliding latch)
    main memory (by screw)
    HDD password on request
    supervisor password
    slot for Kensington Cable Lock
    user password
    main hard disk (by screw)
    wireless LAN switch
    Special features SM BIOS compliant
    HD Audio support
    Multimedia Bar with 6 touch Easy Keys (Mute, Rewind, Play, Stop, Forward, CD/DVD launcher)
    integrated VGA Web Camera for Video over IP
    integrated microphone for Voice over IP
    Have fun



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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    Thanks, Gremlin.

    The screen size is less of an issue as the laptop will spend much of its "home" time plugged into a monitor as a desk space saving measure. I'd forgotten that when I initially posted the question - the widescreen format of the L500-1DT was one of the turn-offs for me (maybe OK for games(?) and DVDs, but annoys the hell out of me when dealing with documents).

    I'm probably heading for the L500-1DT for little more reason than the fact that it already has Windows 7 installed, so less hassle than over-writing the OS.
    "Hurrah for the Works Group" just doesn't have the same ring...

    "A volunteer is worth ten pressed men."
    So, a TA battalion or nine Regular Guards battalions? Not a difficult choice, then (especially as we don't have nine Regular Guards battalions).

    I am a number. I am not a free man.

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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    You wont be doing any games with intel graphics though, and dual screening may be an issue (speedwise).

    These laptops are great for school/uni until they come home with a copy of Sims 3, then the tears start and we all get upset at spending £400+ for a posh wordprocessor/web browser.

    I would spend a little more and get a DELL Inspiron 15" at £479.

    Base
    Intel® Pentium® Dual-Core Processor T4300 (2.1GHz, 800MHz, 1MB cache)
    LCD
    15.6" Widescreen WXGA CCFL (1366 x 76 TFT Display with TrueLifeâ„¢
    Video Card
    256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD4330
    Memory4096MB 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x2048]
    Hard Drive320GB (5,400rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
    Specifications - Hard Drive
    Optical DevicesDVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD)
    Specifications - Optical Devices

    You should have no worries from that build.

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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    No problem on the games side.

    She has started university, is living at home and commuting 20 miles each day. She has a part-time job which funds her car and takes up about 20 hours per week. She has a boyfriend who she takes to, and collects from, work. She spends an hour at the gym three times a week and aims for 10 hours sleep per night.

    Ergo, no time for games other than that one where you build a farm by planting/harvesting crops and have to wait a day to see the results.

    Now, if I were asking on behalf of my son....
    "Hurrah for the Works Group" just doesn't have the same ring...

    "A volunteer is worth ten pressed men."
    So, a TA battalion or nine Regular Guards battalions? Not a difficult choice, then (especially as we don't have nine Regular Guards battalions).

    I am a number. I am not a free man.

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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    This is a good site for laptops www.novatech.co.uk you can even build some of them to your spec. Also this week Aldi have a good laptop coming out and the best thing is they have a 3 year no quibble garauntee www.aldi.co.uk have a look at their specials on the home page. In fact here is the link http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2827_11712.htm

    don't buy from Pc world!!

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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    I've got this one for Highway Junior for Christmas. For the geeks amongst us, would this suffice for a very inquisitive, technology daft 12 year old. It looks good enough to me, but hey what do I know, I'm only the mug doing the overtime to buy it!! :D

    Toshiba Satellite L350-214 17-Inch Notebook
    17 inch widescreen - offers a crystal clear display for clearer brighter images
    AMD Athlon x2 Dual Core Processor - delivers enhanced performance for everyday computing needs
    Integrated Web Camera - allows you to talk to family and friends online
    DVD Supermulti Drive - view all your movies on your laptop
    Wi-Fi- wireless technology, modem and ethernet port provide a wide range of connection options
    Technical Details

    Processor type: AMD Athlon Processor QL-65
    Clock speed: 2.10 GHz
    Front Side Bus: 3600 MHz
    2nd level cache: 1 MB
    Operating system: Genuine Windows Vista 7 Home Premium
    System memory: 2 Gb
    Hard disk: 250 Gb
    Optical Drive: DVD Super Multi drive (Double Layer) - CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-R(DL), DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+R(DL), DVD+RW, DVD-RAM
    Optical Drive Speed (Read): 24x CD-ROM, 8x DVD-ROM/
    Optical Drive Speed (Write): 24x CD-R, 4x CD-RW, 10x HS CD-RW, 24x US CD-RW, 8x DVD-R, 6x DVD-R (Double Layer), 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+R, 6x DVD+R (Double Layer), 8x DVD+RW, 5x DVD-RAM
    Display: 17.0 inch Toshiba TruBrite WXGA+ TFT High Brightness display
    Internal resolution: 1440 x 900
    Graphics: ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics 1406 Mb
    Memory type: shared
    Interfaces: DC-in, VGA, RJ-11, RJ-45, external mic, headphone (stereo), 3x USB 2.0, integrated VGA Web Camera with built-in microphone
    Expansion: 2x memory slots (1 to configure), 1x ExpressCard slot
    Wireless Communication Compliancy: Wi-Fi
    Network Support: 802.11b/g/Draft-N
    Wireless Technology: Wireless LAN (802.11b/g)
    Wired Communication Topology: Fast Ethernet LAN
    Speed: 10BASE-T/100BASE-TX
    Topology: international V.90 modem (V.92 ready)
    Speed: 56 Kbps data and 14.4 Kbps fax
    Sound: 24-bit stereo supported audio format, built-in stereo speaker
    Special features: Standard numeric keypad
    Pointing device: Touch Pad
    Battery technology: lithium-ion
    Maximum life: up to 2hrs 30 min (Mobile Mark 2007)
    AC adaptor: autosensing AC adapter (100/240 V) for worldwide usage
    Dimensions (WxDxH): 398 x 292 x 35.3 - 43.1 mm
    Weight: 3.15 Kg

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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    [quote="flynavy"]This is a good site for laptops www.novatech.co.uk you can even build some of them to your spec. Also this week Aldi have a good laptop coming out and the best thing is they have a 3 year no quibble garauntee www.aldi.co.uk have a look at their specials on the home page. In fact here is the link http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/2827_11712.htm

    don't buy from Pc world!![/quote]

    +11111

    PC World are fools.

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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    Consider teh Bay of E.



    Mobile Dual Core Pentium @ 1.77GHz
    120GB HDD
    Came with 1GB RAM, I added another 1GB

    Radeon shared graphics, make a reasonable job of some older games
    Built in wireless

    Total cost - £110. £6 for a laptop bag from Tesco.


    Maybe worth a look?

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    Re: Woodlouse and which laptop?

    Here you go, a decent site to check what your onboard graphics can do.

    Notebook check

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