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03-02-2012, 12:26 #1
HOW to invest in shares.
From time to time a thread starts up on a particular share or offering that arouses some interest, and we also start talking about how to invest, what brokers to use, what sources of information to use and so on.
So I thought that I would try and make a useful distinction between the two. This thread is about how to invest, i.e:
What books to read and websites to visit?
What online resources are useful (and free!)
What's the really essential knowledge?
What personal investment rules do you use? What techniques?
How to take the plunge and register with some form of broker, recommendations, etc.
For WHAT to invest in, there's another thread where people can post tips, share their portfolios and ask questions. It's here WHAT shares to invest in
Note: ARRSE, its owners or members cannot be held responsible for the financial advice within this or other threads. Investors invest at their own risk and the value of shares and other financial products can go down as well as up. A fool and his money are easily parted, etc etc...Last edited by Victorian_Major; 03-02-2012 at 13:03.
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03-02-2012, 12:35 #2
Are you regulated by the FSA?
Actually, kidding aside I am interested in the subject.3; 2; 1; Firing NOW.........
3; 2; 1; Firing NOW ........
FFS Pass me the bloody matches.
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!
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03-02-2012, 12:41 #3
So, to start from me...
I started off by reading a few books. In the distant past I had studied share trading as a part of a degree I was doing, but had forgotten the majority of the stuff and felt like I had to get back to basics.
So I read:
Dummies Guide to Shares and Investing. Does what it says on the tin...
Investing in Stocks and Shares by John White. I read this next - the Dummies Guide really helps as the entry-level book.
The Neatest Little Guide to Stock Market Investing by Jason Kelly. A septic's view.
Next, I set up a blind portfolio - i.e. I pretended I had money and I watched that pretend money grow and shrink. I did this using the Stock Prices, Financial Markets News, FTSE 100 Index - London Stock Exchange website.
In longer time, I wrote out the rules of my portfolio and tried to take a systems-based view of my portfolio and its surrounding 'ecosystem'. Bear in mind that what I know about systems-based-anything can be put on a fag packet. But here it is...Last edited by Victorian_Major; 03-02-2012 at 12:45.
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03-02-2012, 12:42 #4
Bullbearings is a good way to practice without losing your shirt.
Stock Market Simulator | Investment Game | Virtual Stock Exchange
I use it to piss about with foreign exchange, it's good fun. Don't expect to get any work done, though.
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03-02-2012, 12:43 #5
Keep going. I'll have to catch up later.
3; 2; 1; Firing NOW.........
3; 2; 1; Firing NOW ........
FFS Pass me the bloody matches.
Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!
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03-02-2012, 12:44 #6
No - I am not even in the Financial Industry. But I'm not presuming to offer financial advice here, just share information - and to get it off others! If someone FSA registered comes along that'd be great but I daresay that they would also be very circumspect about handing out advice.
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03-02-2012, 12:51 #7
Hi VM (and budding would-be millionaires out there!!); the following is a shameless "cut & paste" from a PM I sent earlier on - hopefully it should cover a number of salient points.
Buying shares:
You can do this through most High Street banks or any Sharedealing Firm. "Google" search will find you any number of them. I use my bank's sharedealing team, who I have found to be spot on. As an aside, the bank's Sharedealing advisors will NOT give you advice on which firms to invest in - by and large they ain't qualified. This advice has to come from an Independent Financial Advisor (IFA) or your own analysis of the market.
Selftrade Share Dealing Account / Selftrade
Share Dealing | Interactive Investor
Barclays Stockbrokers
Sharedealing questions | first direct
Stock Prices, Financial Markets News, FTSE 100 Index - London Stock Exchange
Lloyds TSB Share Dealing
Share Chat
Share Chat on London South East. Recent Share Chat on all major UK stocks.
Investing | This is Money
Stockopedia | Share Prices, Company News, CEO Interviews & Investor Discussion
ADVFN - Free live UK share prices from the LSE, FTSE 100 Index
The chat sites come with a fairly obvious "health warning" that they may be frequented by those with, shall we say, a "less than thorough" grounding in the topic of which they speak........... A bit like a certain site we all know & love then!!!!!
In my humble opinion, "Playing the Stock Market" has a number of cardinal rules:
1. Any money you put into stocks & shares HAS to be money that, in the event of the next crash coming along tomorrow, you can tear up and walk away from laughing. You hear horror stories of people re-mortgaging their houses, or borrowing £10,000 on a 0% Credit Card to invest - don't do it, because if the firm you invest in goes bust, or the next Black Wednesday comes along next week (and you will NOT see it coming, that's a given) then you are in the s**t!!!
2. Research your intended purchase for a long time before you buy. Do NOT, for f**k's sake, go by a tip you got from a mate in the pub!! The buzz-phrase amongst civvy brokers "If you don't understand it then don't invest in it"
3. Don't get into the habit of checking your share prices every hour, or even every day; you'll soon become obsessed with it.
4. Have an idea of what price you are prepared to sell your shares at, and once you have done so (and hopefully netted yourself a few quid!!!) DON'T look back.
5. When you are doing your "profit calculations", bear in mind that if you are a UK taxpayer any profit you make from stocks & shares is liable for Capital Gains Tax at 28%. There are ISA exemptions for the first £10,100 of profit etc in a given Financial Year - again, speak to an IFA for the definitive.
6. Enjoy it!! The stock market can be fun, and can make you a few quid, but it is HIGHLY unlikely to earn you life-changing sums of money.
Grateful for anyone else's contributions (or indeed, advice if my points above have been less-than-helpful!!)
ChasLast edited by chasndave; 03-02-2012 at 13:38.
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03-02-2012, 13:04 #8
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03-02-2012, 13:15 #9
Can only offer that I was slightly pissed off the other day at not buying some shares in Rockhopper last year.....
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03-02-2012, 13:19 #10
Cigar Island
Can I offer that I share your pain in the "slightly-pissed-off" stakes; only by virtue of BUYING INTO Desire Petroleum........???
Ah well, 70% down isn't that bad a place to be,is it?? Thank the Lord it was only £200!!!!


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