Haven't a clue, but possibly both.... this was back in the mid 80s when they could do more or less what they liked at PD... and people still volunteered! Boy life in BAOR must have been dull for some people

"Appointment with Fire" was a classic! *The suspense was immense, far better than Blair Witch Project:

...he's filling a No.4 burner with fuel, oh, oh, he's split some, oh, now he's left a trail of petrol running from the burner back to the fuel store, he's looking for his matches...any minute now.........BOOM! *Aaargh! bloke runs around on fire for a bit. *Cut to next clip, he's filling something else with fuel, he's got an unlit fag in his mouth, reaches for his zippo...any minute now..etc. etc.

The other goody was the one with the bloke cutting a thunderflash in half then lighting the powder "to see if it burns". *Taken away swathed in flamazine and burns dressings in a 1960's ambulance as I recall.

If anyones seen HARTS WAR then you're know thats the worst war film ever made. Bruce Willis stars and the whole film is based in Prison.... Know one could ever compare this film with the almighty GREAT ESCAPE, which IS a true story. The plot to the story is crap... Bruce Willis is a COl in the US Army and is obviously in a German POW camp. 2 black AirForce officers arrive, one gets killed and the other framed for murder to a white man. A nice little mock court case appears between the prisoners and at the same time they are building a big hole. Bruce gets shot..end of the film. Pants

Could be an NI security film made 16 years ago in the Ashford Naafi-nobody noticed how all the "extras" were short haired 20 year olds and there were only 4 birds-quite a night - the producer threw an eppi on us so we walked out in protest at the lack of the promised free beer, the Provo Sgt got a shooing off a Para and one of the DS snotted a recruit which cost him his career!!!! oh yeah and the film was shite too

Tears of the Sun: it's pump. Bruce Willis as the oldest lootenant in the US army surrounded by a bunch of blokes you don't give two monkeys about and the improbably gorgeous Monica Belluci as the girl they have to save.

Apparently US airpower can be anywhere in the world within 2 minutes of being scrambled, US SF are impervious to bullets unless they're being tragically heroic and Willis and Belluci appear to fall in love in the last 5 minutes of the film, presumably in order to be able to get a shot of them in each others arms at the end.

all in all: PUMP

Bravo Two Zero - Sean Bean is a cross dresser and because it's about the British SAS.

Oh yeah like the REAL Delta Force films with their flying bikes

I saw Gods and Generals in the states - long - the fecking cinema had to show it with an intermission! It is a good 1 1/2 hour film crammed into 4 hours!

Tears of the sun, where all the yanks get shot at the end but they still manage to make it out alive (less one nominal sacrifice). Tough luck for the local civi's though.

It's bad, but BATTLEFIELD EARTH is the worst war movie ever. No doubts. Power up that 200 year old Harrier Mr You've never seen a plane before and go kick Alien butt. It's such a bad war movie it's hardly a war movie at all.

And Clear And Present Danger has got to be the worst book re-write I've ever seen in my life with not very special forces and awful angst moments..

Escape to athena is pretty s--t with loads of nazi's dessed up as astronaut launch crews, the delta force series was crud to.

also the monocoled mutineer, what a load of once sided tosh (RMP's were scary though)

but what about Charlotte Grey? I expected a very interesting film about SOE in France, undercover liviing, how to blow up a train etc and what did we get ? a bloody chick flick. as if someone as obviously screwed up as her would have got through selection?

Trotsky