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And this episode, "Scandal in Belgravia" was based on the original "Scandal in Bohemia" which also had an Irene Addler blackmailing a royal family, although in this case the Bohemian rather than British one. So not too far from the original "oeuvre".
And there is nothing cheap about Lara Pulver.The sand of the desert is sodden red-
Red with the wreck of the square that broke
The gatling's jammed and the colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed its banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks-
"Play up! Play up! And play the game!"
- 08-01-2012, 18:20 #102Senior Member
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I watched a taped re-run of the programme this morning and see no reason to change my opinion, which you seem to have taken exception to. I can’t be sure why, though your seizing upon the word ‘oeuvre’ - apparently new and strange to you - suggests that you find it pretentious. But it’s in fairly common use when discussing literature: it often appears in the TLS, for instance. And I did mention, in my earlier post (#95), that there were some amusing allusions to the original stories, so I fail to see the relevance of your point about this episode's being based on 'A Scandal in Bohemia’ (the correct title) and featuring Irene Adler (the correct name).
I simply think that the standard of writing in this mini-series is not yet up to its predecessor’s, and far short of the quality of the original. Solecisms were minor but numerous – e.g. neither Doyle nor Holmes (nor Basil Rathbone, for that matter) would ever have rhymed Irene with Doreen, and Holmes would rather have jumped into the Reichenbach Falls than be heard to say “When you sent John and I in there” (even calling Watson "John" was bad enough). A “historical hospital” (as seen in a newspaper headline) is simply a hospital in the recorded past; a historic one (obviously the intended sense) is something else altogether. No, this show was enjoyable in its own way - slick, quick and 'cool' (as shown by the gratuitous, vulgar nudity) - but intellectually shaky. That wouldn't matter in most forms of light entertainment, but in this, of all cases, it’s a serious charge. Finally, I used the word ‘cheap’ to describe the titillation, not the actress; if you’re genuinely unable to grasp that distinction then I wonder you take an interest in anything as cerebral as the Holmes stories. Anyway, we’ll see what tonight brings.The man o' independent mind,
He looks an' laughs at a' that.
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Jesus - calm down. It's just banter. The programme itself is just Sunday night light entertainment. He may well have called Watson "John", but he also used a mobile phone which also didn't happen in the origional.
And I take it you mean, "we'll see", not "well see".
He who lives by pedantry...Last edited by BedIn; 08-01-2012 at 18:28.
The sand of the desert is sodden red-
Red with the wreck of the square that broke
The gatling's jammed and the colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed its banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks-
"Play up! Play up! And play the game!"
- 08-01-2012, 18:31 #104Senior Member
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I hope the hound in tonight's episode doesn't wear a collar made of nylon, or the inaccuracies will become too much to bear.
Mind you, we may get to see some tits.
It's ying and yang with modern remakes. There is some drift from the detail of the origional, but they are often better for a wank.Last edited by BedIn; 08-01-2012 at 18:42.
jimmys_best_mate and CrashTestDummy like this.The sand of the desert is sodden red-
Red with the wreck of the square that broke
The gatling's jammed and the colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed its banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks-
"Play up! Play up! And play the game!"
- 08-01-2012, 21:58 #105Senior Member
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Alas, this one was a bit weaker.
I only have so much willing suspension of disbelief.
Minefield? Both the "chemical" one and the AP one?
And hallucination is a lazy way to explain stuff away.The sand of the desert is sodden red-
Red with the wreck of the square that broke
The gatling's jammed and the colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed its banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks-
"Play up! Play up! And play the game!"
- 08-01-2012, 22:37 #106Senior Member
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Where did I write "well see"?
Originally Posted by BedIn 
But, back on topic, you're right - it's light entertainment (as I said myself) and I probably was getting a bit hot under the collar about it; it's just that I loved all those stories as a boy and hate to see any second-rate parody of them. But I've no problem with the first-rate version, which I thought the 2010 series came pretty close to being. Tonight's offering, though, was further evidence that the writers have lost a little of their touch this time around. Let's hope the next/last one is an improvement.The man o' independent mind,
He looks an' laughs at a' that.
- 08-01-2012, 22:42 #107Senior Member
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The last sentence of your previous post, but let's not fight.
This episode was a but duff. It all hangs on the last one.The sand of the desert is sodden red-
Red with the wreck of the square that broke
The gatling's jammed and the colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed its banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks-
"Play up! Play up! And play the game!"
- 08-01-2012, 22:48 #108Senior Member
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No scrap wanted here either, but it seems clear enough to me that the apostrophe is in there. If it doesn't appear on your screen then we have a mystery worthy of the great sleuth himself!
The man o' independent mind,
He looks an' laughs at a' that.
- 08-01-2012, 22:52 #109Senior Member
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iPhone app. Maybe not showing punctuation.
The writers could use that one if they wanted . Very zeigeist-y.The sand of the desert is sodden red-
Red with the wreck of the square that broke
The gatling's jammed and the colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed its banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks-
"Play up! Play up! And play the game!"
- 08-01-2012, 22:58 #110Senior Member
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OK, let's leave it at that, and look forward to next week's convoluted punctuation plot!
The man o' independent mind,
He looks an' laughs at a' that.
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