Discuss Actors and Soldiers at the Films, Music and All Things Artsy forum within the The Army Rumour Service website; In making "A Bridge too far" they took forty actors and put them through a ...
In making "A Bridge too far" they took forty actors and put them through a forty day training package. Results speak for themself.
Soldier, soldier and Redcap however just don't do it despite the obvious efforts to try and get it right. I suspect it has a lot to do with the sincerity of the story lines!!
Possibly because it's as harrowing a 'War film' as you'll see. Made in the 60's I think , and featured David Hemmings in another 'Anti-establishment hero in harrowing film where people don't die particularly nicely' (Charge of the Light Brigade et al)
I think the scene amongst others that stops it getting another airing, is stabbing the German Guard in the eye/neck? with the meat skewer secreted in his Denison .
He had bought a large map representing the sea,
Without the least vestige of land:
And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be
A map they could all understand.
Ian Yule who played Tosh in "The Wild Geese" was good mind you he was in the army most of his life, its a shame he didnt give Burton and co a lesson in how to shape berets though.
+Up until the mid-late 60's, a number of the actors had military experience, if only basdic undervtheir belts.. Brits with national service,at very least...os they all had a ' taste' of the conditions/rituals/etc..there is a long list of american performers who had substantial military service..Jimmy Stewart comes to mind..and many of the best Brit actors of the day..[ John Wayne, the quintessential American War guy.. didn't serve though ]..
After the sixties, new crop were [ and after vietNam ] mostly anti-war types and did not have much to do with mil service..to bring them ' up to snuff ' , even for decidely' anti-war flicks.. think Hamburger Hill, 82Charlie Mopic, Platoon, etc.. the actors had to be sent to ' boot camps' usually under the tutelage of retired Sgts.. etc. to give them a tasdte [ Tigertland and Thin Red L:ine used this technique extensively.. ] and gave rise to technical consultants like Cpt. Dye and Lee ermy..they even ended up playing roles on screen simply because they were so ' authentic' and convincing..
There is a quite a tidy business out there in consulting in military aspects for various military periods [ two ' buddies' of mine worked on Pirates of the caribbean and Master and Commander ].. though, in this some ' Walts' slip through, too..[ ooh, the story... ]
Still, in a lot of cases the work of the consultant is ignored in the film process and its not ' dramtic/cinematic ' enough..
what can you do??
The lead characters out of Warriors (BBC Films 1999) were all pretty good (Lieutenant Loughrey and Feeley and Private James and Skeet) . Perhaps a little old for the jobs that they were actually supposed to be doing, i.e. Platoon Commanders, Warrior Gunners and drivers. Platoon Sergeant was pretty good aswell (Sgt Sochanik).
If I am not much mistaken, one of the platoon commanders also played Captain Richard Winters in Band of Brothers and the the other (this one I am not so sure about) played Hornblower.
Actually all in all a very good drama, with good technical knowledge and actors that had actually researched their roles IMHO.
What made Warriors stand out was the extras. All the kit, vehicles and most of the blokes came from 2RGJ. So the lead characters had to come up to scratch or they would have looked really out of place.
There is only one principle of war and that's this. Hit the other fellow, as quickly as you can, as hard as you can, where it hurts him most, when he ain't lookin.
William J. Slim
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