Army to Police

**FourZeroCharlie** · 18-03-2010, 19:13

Siggie, how old are you? 'Cos I'm getting a distinct heat sig of a 19-year old X Box shoot-em-up 'wizard' who stays up too late.

............and a real odour of 'wanna go ParaSAS an' slot ragheads'.

Enlist, first, do some growing up, serve your time in whichever Regt or Corps is your choice - and then think of a second career.................and some years ago, CO19 used to have a policy of not touching squaddies with a 20' pole. Though this has possibly changed.

**PISX_STAINED_PANTS** · 18-03-2010, 19:25

Siggie, believe me and i know that every other PC on here will back me up, if you follow your career plan and leave the Army for the Police your experience in handling weapons will count for nothing. When filling out an application form and being interviewed for any specialist post previous experience holds no sway at all. All the Human resources and bean counters are interested in is how many examples you can give about what a diverse person you are and how many times you have challenged inappropriate behaviour.
Sorry chap.

**CivPlod** · 18-03-2010, 19:31

Originally Posted by Siggie

Originally Posted by Sundog

Originally Posted by Siggie

Tried a search, couldn't find anything.

Just wondering how easy it is to leave the army and settle in to the police?

I want to eventually get to Para's and upon leaving, join the CO19 Firearms Unit of the Police.

- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.

This has got to be a wind up. PLEEEEEAS tell me that this is a wind up.

Why would it be a wind up? If you havn't got anything good to add, please keep it stumb...

Its a valid question seeing as the Army and Police are both very similar, you would think that there was a way to progress from the army.

Originally Posted by Creepy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you haven't actually got where you want to be in the Army yet and you're already thinking of leaving and joining the Police...

I am currently with CO19. We have far too many inexperienced young chaps and chappesses who think the Police is an easy ride to loadsamoney, but who haven't learnt enough from the real world first.

Its called a career plan. Some people actually think about what they want to do, and also more than a few years in advance...

Its not about the money its what i want to do. If it was the money, id stay where i am, i've got a nice custy little office job earning me 25k a year but it bores the hell out of me.

When you say inexperienced, im guessing you mean life, and sorry but you cant say a para will be inexperienced in that.

Originally Posted by Closet_Jibber

A PARA may be an excellent shot, physically fit and a good all round soldier. However Firearms officers are coppers first, cowboys second. They are expected to apply the law, investigate crime and arrest offenders just like everyone else.

Yeah i see where your coming from on that, understandable though definetely.

Thanks to everyone for their input so far!! :D

You are coming across as impudent, loving the "I cant be bothered with being a bobby" part you wrote. WTF!!!!

Suggest 25mg maturity injection and actually speaking to some police to see what the jobs about, your attitude eptomises everything thats wrong with the probationers today and most likely why the police service get hammered in the papers...... and this site.

Of course 10+ years ago,had you joined with that attitude it would have been belted out of you down the cell passageway by your tutor. Seen it first hand a few times

**PISX_STAINED_PANTS** · 18-03-2010, 19:33

i concur

**Siggie** · 19-03-2010, 02:29

Fair enough, naivety on my part.

For information, I'm joining the signals and hoping to get to 7Sig where i can do my para. From here i thought this would give me an advantage when applying for CO19 or similar. The reason i thought this was because i see similaritys in their work, e.g, escorting etc..

After seeing the replys i now see why this was a stupid question, but as you can see i had no clue (to which i now have much clarity, thank you :D ).

Yeah, as a few of you have suggested i'll just stick to the one career!

Originally Posted by PISX_STAINED_PANTS

i concur

**Siggie** · 19-03-2010, 02:39

Originally Posted by FourZeroCharlie

Siggie, how old are you? 'Cos I'm getting a distinct heat sig of a 19-year old X Box shoot-em-up 'wizard' who stays up too late.

Sorry. This isn't me, i think what has made me think this way though is how its portrayed in the media, including games.

Im 22 and an Electrian, the staying up later bit is a fair point, given the time

**The_Seagull** · 19-03-2010, 03:57

Originally Posted by Siggie

Tried a search, couldn't find anything.

Just wondering how easy it is to leave the army and settle in to the police?

I want to eventually get to Para's and upon leaving, join the CO19 Firearms Unit of the Police.

- Just to add, found out that you have to be in the Police for 2 years before transfering to firearms.

My WAAAAAHHH! Radar is twitching here.

**wet_blobby** · 19-03-2010, 08:12

Originally Posted by Siggie

Fair enough, naivety on my part.

For information, I'm joining the signals and hoping to get to 7Sig where i can do my para.

Best of luck with your chosen career path but I'm struggling to see how fumbling around in the dark whacking up a dipole is going to make you a crack shot.

**Siggie** · 19-03-2010, 16:20

Originally Posted by wet_blobby

Best of luck with your chosen career path but I'm struggling to see how fumbling around in the dark whacking up a dipole is going to make you a crack shot.

Well i'm going the signals route for a trade, para is just something i would like to achieve during my time in the army. With doing this, this is what i thought would have given me an advantage towards CO19.

Would a leaving RMP still have to join the police from the bottom and do a 2 year probation?

**Bollock-chops** · 19-03-2010, 16:38

An embarrassment to the corps and you haven't even joined, FFS.

**Siggie** · 19-03-2010, 16:57

Originally Posted by Bollock-chops

An embarrassment to the corps and you haven't even joined, FFS.

FFS!! Right back at you mate! I'm sorry, did you know everything before you joined the army?!

**Bollock-chops** · 19-03-2010, 17:17

Ok in fairness to you, I did now have internet access before I joined the army, you have far more at your disposal to make a fool of yourself.

Have you asked these same questions at your ACIO, I would like to join signals leave signals become a para police sharpshooter james bond.

You will be presented with all sorts of possibilitys if you successfully pass basic training, trade training, and show some ability when at your first working unit.

As a final point, you haven't joined yet, and you are asking questions about resettlement.

**Siggie** · 19-03-2010, 17:39

Originally Posted by Bollock-chops

As a final point, you haven't joined yet, and you are asking questions about resettlement.

..And this is the point that is p'in me off more than most. I plan the end of my career as much as the start, its all applicable to me in the same way. Im going one way now, whether that be for 5-10-15 years but after that im eventually going to have to think about it, at that point i don't want to be fumbling about where im going next, if its all pre-planned (obviously things can change) then i don't have that thought in my mind.

To me it was a simple question, is it easier to join firearms units from the army? Specialist units such as the paras i thought would hold a big shiny star on your application to the police (if its so big to the ministrys defence i would have thought cheshires defences would have been happy to have you).

Now i know, im still happy, i'll stick to my trade and work on that. However, had i not asked and just assumed on this point, well wouldn't i have been a little more than pissed on finding this out a couple of years in to my contract...

**Bollock-chops** · 19-03-2010, 17:56

Good luck with it.

**marko1** · 19-03-2010, 19:57

Siggie, believe me and i know that every other PC on here will back me up, if you follow your career plan and leave the Army for the Police your experience in handling weapons will count for nothing. When filling out an application form and being interviewed for any specialist post previous experience holds no sway at all. All the Human resources and bean counters are interested in is how many examples you can give about what a diverse person you are and how many times you have challenged inappropriate behaviour.

The above comment from PISX_STAINED_PANTS is exactly right. I am a firearms cop and been in the Police for 9 years after serving 8 years in the Army... Ex forces means nothing in regards to getting in firearms. When i applied for firearms i had to do a fitness test, assessment day, firearms exam, role plays and interview. I do know of ex forces who got onto the 6 weeks initial firearms course and failed. The shooting with the Glock pistol is difficult with fast and short timed exposures. The pistol is something i had never used in the Army so i had no advantage over anyone else, but saying that with the G36 assault rifle my Army training did help....