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Discuss Financial Apocalypse - coming soon in Economics on The Army Rumour Service; Originally Posted by Alsacien I think the dictionary definition of "soon" has been stretched to its limit by this giant floating turd of a thread. As far as I can see it will continue to ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alsacien View Post
    I think the dictionary definition of "soon" has been stretched to its limit by this giant floating turd of a thread.
    As far as I can see it will continue to go nowhere, as even the apocalypse prediction group seem to have given up forecasting imminent doom.
    How do regular posters feel about canning it and starting a more appropriate vehicle[s]?
    Just depends how far and how much the Eurocrats are prepared to spend - that should define "soon"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FARMBOY View Post
    Just depends how far and how much the Eurocrats are prepared to spend - that should define "soon"
    Or to be more precise - how much of individual sovereign state's money the eurocrats are prepared to spend.

    The nation to be presented with the biggest bill in all this is Germany - not unnaturally they are baulking at picking up the tab for Club Med. Beyond Germany there are only a few other nations robust enough to put into the pot - and they are smallish - for example Holland. (France will try and play with the big boys, but whether her economy is robust enough is another matter).

    The UK won't directly contribute. Cameron/Osborne have made it clear that the UK will contribute to the IMF and bail out individual European countries - they won't contribute to bailing out the euro zone. (And whether we can actually afford it is another question).

    We can write off the 'minnow' states such as those in the Baltic.

    That leaves the ECB - which can print the required money. This will stoke up eurozone inflation.

    Which brings us to the politics in this:

    Germany: Merkel is up for election in 2013. She won't (a) want to be seen as paying for Club Meds mistakes and (b) jeopardize her re-election chances.

    France/Italy/Spain: the 'Latin Bloc' want to expand spending (using someone else's money) and continue to ramp up their increasingly unsustainable deficits.

    Club Med: Italy, Spain, Portugal, Greece are all shying away from fundamental reform to make their economies more competitive, and northern Europe won't want to continue to subsidise the existing inefficient mess.

    So the eurozone continues to be FUBAR...

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    I think we will leave the last word with Wordsmith.

    Thread closed.

    Preferable would be to start threads on specific topics, alternatively crayon in here:
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