- 15-11-2011, 10:06 #2621
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I am not 100% sure but I did read something that Silvio was/is trying to pass a Bill giving him Immunity from some of his Financial shenanigans .
Villen/Wrong un but he is no mug.
He can cause any administration to fall.
Ruby the heartbreaker, on par with that underage piece the frog football was er servicing.
- 15-11-2011, 18:31 #2622
- 15-11-2011, 21:28 #2623
Berlusconi has a very hostile and underhanded card to play - organised crime. I dont mean Greek style corruption and tax evasion, although he undoubtedly does that, but his links with Camorra, 'ndrangheta, La Cosa Nostra are well known, and have been for many years. These organisations are capable of terrorist attacks, such as bombings in Florence, and murdering magistrates. This organised crime network is a multi billion euro organisation, and remains a powerful force in southern Italy. 'ndrangheta alone is estimated to process about 50 billion euros a year. These groups can close down industries if they wish, but Berlusconi does have a hand in controlling those groups, and influencing which contracts go where. There has been a plan for a bridge to Sicily for many years, and with many millions of euros thrown that way, but as for anything you could drive over, nothing. Of course, the OC groups in southern Italy sap the social security of Italy probably more than our chavs do here in UK.
If anything, Italy has had support from EU in tackling organised crime, and remarkably successfully too. The northern Italians certainly do not want to go back to the OC groups taking control again, and Mrs Merkel certainly doesnt want any Italian OC groups setting bombs off in Germany. We in UK may have our problems with immigrant workers, bringing in the crops, but we dont kill the workers at the end of the season.First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
I'm speaking out before they come for me.
- 17-11-2011, 02:45 #2624
I suspect that part of the quid pro quo for him stepping down was that he wasn't pursued through the courts afterwards.
- 17-11-2011, 08:06 #2625
More bad news from Mervyn.Warns of double dip recession.
Sir Mervyn King: Britain on the brink of second credit crunch, Bank of England Governor warns - TelegraphOlder,but no wiser.
- 17-11-2011, 08:32 #2626
- 17-11-2011, 08:46 #2627
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- Feb 2004
Unfortunately there was no PM's question time this week, I had to make do with a snippet on Guido Fawkes of Deputy PM's questions.
Last week Dave was slapping down Ed with, We have created 100,000 jobs in the private sector, not just manufactured jobs in the civil service as the previous government did.
Wonderful, however it's a couple of million jobs Dave/UK needs, Undred thousand is Nothing.
From what has been said in last few posts there are jobs but Furriners are taking them.
Not nice to say but until UK becomes a low wage economy so many jobs will stay overseas.
- 17-11-2011, 21:43 #2628
The Tories realised they had to manage market perception as selling debt is all about confidence. We can even be risky, we just have to be +less+ risky than others.
Yes they have a busted flush but the posturing on cuts has bought them time. Hopefully they have been using that to set up plans on bank runs, civil unrest and even food rationing. I'm not saying it will come anywhere near this but you have to plan for it.
We have an utter mess. What would you have them do? I think the best thing they could do was stall for time and hope we somehow scrape through.
The time for complaining about absurd policies was 10 or 15 years ago. The damage is done now and we are simply spectators in our own slow-motion car crash, largely hostage to outside events.
I really think people need to read between the lines a bit more here. They can't spell it out for fear of causing panic in the domestic population and the wider markets. Unfortunately because we have a country of children most people can't see this and instead rail against statements that people like Osborne must detest having to trot out.
- double posting the board is playing up
- 17-11-2011, 22:23 #2629
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- Feb 2004
Good post Geezer.
- 17-11-2011, 22:44 #2630
I heard somewhere that all of this financial crisis debt that we are trying to pay off is owed to 2,000 individuals and corporations. As the entire human race seems to be putting itself on hold until the debt is paid, I wonder if it would not be more sensible to consider the needs of 7,000,000,000+ people set against these 2,000 otherwise worthy individuals and commercial entities. If the UN could suggest a worldwide referendum on cancelling all debt and starting again, the odds of 3,500,000:1 might provoke a sensible reduction in some of the demands made on us.