Thread: Forces in the frame for Ipswich murders?.......

Devious as in clever not as in murdering at least five people, thats a given.

Originally Posted by The Lord Flasheart

Originally Posted by ExMedic

I've got the solution! Get Gil Grisom over from CSI, he'll have it solved in an hour (he always does in the TV series).

This is the trouble. The media (and general public) seem to think even the most dastardly of crimes can be solved within an hour (including adverts) and expect reality to mimmick fiction. If after a few weeks, this murderer hasn't been caught, the press will be demanding the head of the Suffolk Police on a plate.

I don't think they realise it's not as easy as that. Especially if the perpetrator is a devious little so and so.

What really condemned CSI to the same league as Ultimate Force (for me at least), was the fact that a ginger (and a GWAR to boot) has the lead role.

Originally Posted by sandmanfez

A Crab serial killer? Not very likely, bunch of muesli-eating, yogurt-weaving jessies. Choking the chicken is about their limit.

Don't you believe it mate. I used to be a bezzer with a murdering nutcase - except we didn't know that until he was collared for assault - and subsequently sang like a bird over a string of rapes, assaults and a murder. Funny ol' world, eh?

As for chickeneers? I'll have you know I was a premiership player in the Spotty on Fridays & Sat'days. Strangled poultry noticeable by its absence - apart from in the PCAU accommodation, the inhabitants of which preferred to spend their evenings largeing it at the bar and looking 'ard, whilst the cream of Betty's Flying Club stole the show with the (very) available lovelies from Cartoontown.

This might seem stupid, but it says Crabs from RAF Coltishall, I lived there in my early teens, and I always thought as of recent that it was a skeleton base, with only enough personel to make sure the place dosent burn down ect. So hardly enough to make a difference! Also, it takes a F*cking age to get out of that place! no dual carriageways, and tractors left right and centre! They wouldnt really be arrsed to drive for 1 hour 30+ to kill some hooker.

RAF Coltishall has been an operational station since the Battle of Britain (a bit before actually), but it is now C-L-O-S-E-D. Something that the media mongs didn't bother to check out.

I have a feeling it will turn out to be a lorry driver. Dont know what odds
ladbrokes will give me tho.

Originally Posted by Tartan_Terrier

What a load of twaddle, it could be anyone.

No it will be whoever killed them!

Don't forget the HQ of OOCL shipping is only a few hundred yard away from where bodies 4 & 5 were found so we can bring a billion chinese into the frame as well.

So let me just get this right;

It *could* be a lorry driver because they use the A14 lots and that's where the bodies were found; ok, it's very very tenous, but, you know, *almost* believable.

How did they link in the armed forces? What makes the fact that there's serving personel mean someone in uniform dunnit?

Have to agree with moody; you'd be nuts deep in any prossie before, after, during killing (all three hopefully). Which narrows it down to the Gremlin type wooly jumper wearing virgin who wants to have sex, but freaks out and sticks a pillow over their face instead.
Or, as moody once again pointed out, it could be a mental woman. Some bint found out her husband's been splashing money on cheap prostitutes; goes on a killing spree of revenge against prostitutes and he's right out of pet bunnies; and he's too scared of his reputation to come forward as someone who chucked his muck up them for their next bit of crack cocaine.

Hmmmm, I'm so good I should be a journalist (although really worried I agreed with moody... fcuking ugly bint :D)

It is simply far too much of a drain on public resources in tracking down those who such crimes commit such crimes, although occasionally, in all fairness, the Police get lucky. Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper who confessed after being caught by a good old fashioned copper, who returned the the place of arrest and recovered the hastilly abandoned murder weapons. Fred and Rose West are some examples.

Far easier and cheaper to build up a psychological profife of the offender and then find some sad sack like Stefan Kizco, learning disabled and inarticulate, who was wrongly convicted and spent 16 years in prison, dying soon after his release when the case against him was conclusively rubbished or some sexually repressed loner like Colin Stagg, hounded and entrapped by the Police, who were under pressure to produce a conviction for the murder of a photogenic and attractive lady on Wmbedon Common the case against him thrown out of court by a judge who was scathing at what the Police had done and then hounded by the media into virtual insanity.

I remain very suspicious about psychological profiling since what it inevitably leads to is to find some vulnerable expendable Chav who 'looks guilty who fits the profile and build the case against him on the profile alone!

The object of the criminal justice system is deterrence. A search for the truth is irrelevant what matters is not guilt or innocence which is the end product of a long search for the truth but a conviction and a public belief, well founded but not necessarily so on that the offender is actually guilty as charged.

When everything is reduced to a cost-benefit analysis,when the Police are under pressure to produce results, when senior officer's career progresson is on the line if they fail to stay within resource budgets and produce a conviction when resources are weighed in the balance against the life of an expendible Subject, it is indeed not only possible and probable, it actually happens!

Cynic? Who moi?

When you are anticipating a lot of bad news coming your way:

PM interviewed by Police
Saudi corruption investigation dropped
Secret UN WMD evidence becoming public
Iraq going from pear shaped but winnable to tail between legs

Then you know you'll need a decent bit of "bad" news to help you bury it.

Five drug-addled prostitutes who probably never voted labour, that'll do nicely.

hmmmmm.....


What were the Rt. Hon Gentleman's movements on the night of the Ipswich murders?

Sorry this is seriously flawed, some Para Tom freshly back from defending the realm decides, "nah, i won't bother going to the Hippodrome where all the girls are gagging for a squaddie and is within tabbing distance of camp. I know why don't I drive to Ipswich pick up a hooker (sorry sex worker) and not even get laid."

Come on journos (yes, I know your reading) you really are dredging the bottom of your barrel. I've seen enough "Bond" films to know its you journos creating news then adding your own spin of hysteria........

Notice they were not on list even though there are a few newspaper offices in the area.

Rant over both fingers tired from overtyping!!

Of course it's squaddie humour but a few of the lads reckon 3 PARA enjoyed slotting the Taliban so much that it got kind of...well..addictive.

At least the murderer has a sound work ethic. It shows you how lazy Peter Sutcliffe was - he took bloody years.

the police are asking hte killer to turn themselves in...

we must have the worlds most optimistic police force.