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18-09-2008, 20:50 #41
Re: The Undercover Soldier - BBC1
"Im disturbed to hear him (corperal) talking to the recruits this way about shooting people."
Perhaps our intrepid reporter would like the harsh realities of modern combat dressed up for the troops?
I think that quote pretty much sums the whole report up.
Another journo c*nt out to make a name for himself at the mobs expense.I've got your mothers maiden name tattooed on my arm.
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18-09-2008, 20:51 #42
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how can he have got so far without being found out? he is seeking out guys from other platoons, where he shouldnt be, for stories about attacks on recruits. why has no-one queried this?
ive just seen how he lies to get a discharge. good riddance to bad rubbish.
a load of shite..
cant wait for starship troopers to start in an hours time. maybe hes used quotes from that in his report
"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
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18-09-2008, 20:52 #43
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i didnt see it but my mate dave told me that steve told him that cpl x who is from the un-named plt might have done this to mark but nobody saw it but he told me all about it!!
Surely summin con be done about this clown!
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18-09-2008, 20:53 #44
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There's robust training and there's robust training, but kicking isn't in the manual. All of us know that. Sadly some others appear to ignore the fact. This is nothing new, but I have to say that it never happened to me nor anyone else in my Platoon.
The bloke reporting though, comes over as a bit of a muppet especially when he tries to pad his piece out with whinges about the weather, etc. In fact, he came over very much as a muppet at the start of the programme as he tried to 'dramatise' the issue of joining up. The comment about 'war crimes' hasn't been substantiated, so was it added for effect? Shame that the BBC have to use uncorroborated accounts. His whinges about the group punishments are pathetic and he comes over as such. He appears to have forgotten that it's the Army and it's meant to be tough.
The nugget who 'joined up to shoot ragheads' was just an immature young man acting up.
Nevertheless, back to the story, you don't hit recruits. If you're a good instructor, you don't need to get physical. If Instructors are hitting recruits, they need shopping, so hats off to him for exposing that issue. It's not the first tiem ITC have had this issue. I doubt that it will be the last either.
I see that the SIB have fallen back into the 'complaint perfroma' style of interviewing groups of witnesses. The lessons of NI have obviously been forgotten. Should be an nteresting DCM if it get's that far.
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18-09-2008, 20:53 #45
Re: The Undercover Soldier - BBC1
"The British Army is 1300 men short"
and oh my this lump of shit is really going to help. Cheers"Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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18-09-2008, 20:53 #46Senior Member
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Re: The Undercover Soldier - BBC1
apparently not a real journo was recruited, he looked after children who had been excluded from school i think he said at beginning of prog.
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18-09-2008, 20:54 #47
Re: The Undercover Soldier - BBC1
how about lying to get out?
Originally Posted by yamkwak
“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.” - Winston Churchill.
Carenza Lewis about finding food in the Middle Ages on 'Time Team Live' said: 'You'd eat beaver if you could get it.'
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18-09-2008, 20:55 #48
Re: The Undercover Soldier - BBC1
Well said,
Originally Posted by insert-coin-here
However, surely u must agree tht when recruits join todays army they cant really expect to have to actually fight? It must be so distressing for them in their training to be told they might have to shoot or worse still be shot - telling them things like this is true bullying!
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18-09-2008, 20:55 #49
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So he is a walting journo walting squaddy kiddy fiddler then?
Originally Posted by canteen_cowboy
I hate humans. I wind people up, it's what I do.
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18-09-2008, 20:57 #50
Re: The Undercover Soldier - BBC1
it's nearly finished yet shown NOTHING!!!
Wot was the point of this tacky shite? I thought we would see evidence...nope! Nothing to see here folks...move along!!!


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