Thread: The Undercover Soldier - BBC1
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18-09-2008, 20:45 #31
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Its bollox,it would be laughable if it hadnt been the Beeb who made it, on sky they have an actor who has the balls to go out to afghanistan, reports truthfully and fairly, we have an American Micheal Yon who needs donations to write excellent and to the point interviews and thoughts.
The BBC hires someone who hasnt a clue, and we're fecking paying for this shite, bollox im driving the arrse bus.49 Para Close Recce troop. Motto "your Bush is our Home"
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18-09-2008, 20:46 #32
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Lost Canister.....
Broken Respirator....
2 Very, Very different things.
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18-09-2008, 20:47 #33
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So far not seen any bullyng just heard it 2nd and 3rd hand, and lots of sayings about army guidelines etc etc.
and the platoon without a name"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..." - General John Sedgwick (1813-1864), last words
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18-09-2008, 20:48 #34
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THis is the bigest non story ever. Even the Mrs thinks its sh1te
If your gonna be a bear..Be a grizzly
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18-09-2008, 20:48 #35
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BBC obviously tonight stands for Bollox Balls and Cnuts with this type of crud they have decided to put on tonight - bullying .... yeh right when is is going to start??
you only live once ...make sure you enjoy it!! If you don't enjoy it sit in the corner and shut the Feck up!
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18-09-2008, 20:48 #36
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Complete and utter bollocks! What a stirring little shit, i'd make him see out his fecking contract, but i wouldn't want him standing to next to me
I haven't seen ANY bullying yet
Unbelieveable. The people who have said they were beaten were not convincing either
"oh, it was in the toilets"
Yeah right
GarbageShould probably put something here.....
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18-09-2008, 20:48 #37Junior Member
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Has the journalist been discharged, can't watch any more of the prog for reasons stated by others. Surely he can't remain in the forces now, what he has done must be against military law, official secrets etc?
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18-09-2008, 20:48 #38
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I didn't see it happen but...
This really is scraping the barrel TV. Not wot I expect from the BBC.
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18-09-2008, 20:48 #39
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The only racist thing I have seen on this is from some of the recruits. The JNCO near the begining of the program mentions the Army is a racist organisation but it is changing and it is their (the recruits) job to change the balance. To me that seems a positive?
Originally Posted by VMechA
Hopefully we can see the reporter doing his next investigstion in Afghanistan? Maybe he will see why the training isn't three hours of Kerplunk and sitting on scatter cushions for a few weeks.
As has been said, some of the alleged bullying mentioned by the recruits seems to be dealt with in the appropriate manner. But again, its all alleged and not proven but is apparently being investigated.
He is highlighting a recruit shouting 'die paki' whilst bayoneting. He is making it appear it is a sancitoned and approved Army method suggesting it will appear on the recruits passing out video. What would be nice would be to actually see if it was included or not. I'll bet a days flying pay it was not....but I guess the fuckwit wont mention that?I hate humans. I wind people up, it's what I do.
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18-09-2008, 20:50 #40
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The Platoon without a name? That was clearly identifiable in the video footage, and by cap badges and badges on uniforms?
Originally Posted by canteen_cowboy
I find it hilarious that he's found some extreme examples of unacceptable behaviour, that were then sorted by the Army's internal discipline network. The biggest non story of the year.
BBC scum.
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18-09-2008, 20:50 #41
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"Im disturbed to hear him (corperal) talking to the recruits this way about shooting people."
Perhaps our intrepid reporter would like the harsh realities of modern combat dressed up for the troops?
I think that quote pretty much sums the whole report up.
Another journo c*nt out to make a name for himself at the mobs expense.I've got your mothers maiden name tattooed on my arm.
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18-09-2008, 20:51 #42
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how can he have got so far without being found out? he is seeking out guys from other platoons, where he shouldnt be, for stories about attacks on recruits. why has no-one queried this?
ive just seen how he lies to get a discharge. good riddance to bad rubbish.
a load of shite..
cant wait for starship troopers to start in an hours time. maybe hes used quotes from that in his report
"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
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18-09-2008, 20:52 #43
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i didnt see it but my mate dave told me that steve told him that cpl x who is from the un-named plt might have done this to mark but nobody saw it but he told me all about it!!
Surely summin con be done about this clown!
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18-09-2008, 20:53 #44
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There's robust training and there's robust training, but kicking isn't in the manual. All of us know that. Sadly some others appear to ignore the fact. This is nothing new, but I have to say that it never happened to me nor anyone else in my Platoon.
The bloke reporting though, comes over as a bit of a muppet especially when he tries to pad his piece out with whinges about the weather, etc. In fact, he came over very much as a muppet at the start of the programme as he tried to 'dramatise' the issue of joining up. The comment about 'war crimes' hasn't been substantiated, so was it added for effect? Shame that the BBC have to use uncorroborated accounts. His whinges about the group punishments are pathetic and he comes over as such. He appears to have forgotten that it's the Army and it's meant to be tough.
The nugget who 'joined up to shoot ragheads' was just an immature young man acting up.
Nevertheless, back to the story, you don't hit recruits. If you're a good instructor, you don't need to get physical. If Instructors are hitting recruits, they need shopping, so hats off to him for exposing that issue. It's not the first tiem ITC have had this issue. I doubt that it will be the last either.
I see that the SIB have fallen back into the 'complaint perfroma' style of interviewing groups of witnesses. The lessons of NI have obviously been forgotten. Should be an nteresting DCM if it get's that far.
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18-09-2008, 20:53 #45
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"The British Army is 1300 men short"
and oh my this lump of shit is really going to help. Cheers"Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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