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    Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    http://www.meltontimes.co.uk/news/DA...nce.4473259.jp

    DAC kennels refused licence

    Published Date: 09 September 2008
    By Michael Cooke
    WEDNESDAY 8AM: The Defence Animal Centre, which trains dogs for combat zones around the world, may face legal action over the state of its kennels.
    Melton Council's animal licensing officer found 'significant deterioration' in the dogs' accommodation and refused to issue an Animal Boarding Establishment licence saying urgent action was needed.

    The Ministry of Defence conceded that the kennels, in Welby Lane, Melton, needed to be replaced and said it was actively negotiating with the private company that manages them for this to be done.

    In a statment it said: "We are fully aware the kennels at the Defence Animal Centre require replacement. Realm (the company) currently manages all of the facilities at the centre, and we are working urgently with them to establish how and when a replacement plan is to be put in place.

    "At the same time, we are ensuring that the essential trained dog and handler output to the services continues to meet operational requirements.

    "We have, and continue to be, in constructive negotiations with Realm which has acknowledged its responsibility for the proper repair and replacement of the kennels."

    Melton Council's rural, economic and environmental affairs committee said it would defer a decision on whether or not to prosecute to give the two parties time to resolve the matter and it stressed that cleanliness at the centre was of a good standard.

    However, it warned that if no solution can be found the matter will be referred back to a special meeting or its next meeting in November for further consideration.
    Human or animal, it seems that nobody is immune from being screwed over by contractors!

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    Re: Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    I wonder how many complaints were ignored or swept under carpets. I have to say that every Services dog handler I've ever met was exceptionally professional about the upkeep of both dog and kennel. Who looks afer the contract? Maybe they should consider revocation.

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    Re: Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    Quote Originally Posted by asr1
    http://www.meltontimes.co.uk/news/DAC-kennels-refused-licence.4473259.jp

    DAC kennels refused licence

    Published Date: 09 September 2008
    By Michael Cooke
    WEDNESDAY 8AM: The Defence Animal Centre, which trains dogs for combat zones around the world, may face legal action over the state of its kennels.
    Melton Council's animal licensing officer found 'significant deterioration' in the dogs' accommodation and refused to issue an Animal Boarding Establishment licence saying urgent action was needed.

    The Ministry of Defence conceded that the kennels, in Welby Lane, Melton, needed to be replaced and said it was actively negotiating with the private company that manages them for this to be done.

    In a statment it said: "We are fully aware the kennels at the Defence Animal Centre require replacement. Realm (the company) currently manages all of the facilities at the centre, and we are working urgently with them to establish how and when a replacement plan is to be put in place.

    "At the same time, we are ensuring that the essential trained dog and handler output to the services continues to meet operational requirements.

    "We have, and continue to be, in constructive negotiations with Realm which has acknowledged its responsibility for the proper repair and replacement of the kennels."

    Melton Council's rural, economic and environmental affairs committee said it would defer a decision on whether or not to prosecute to give the two parties time to resolve the matter and it stressed that cleanliness at the centre was of a good standard.

    However, it warned that if no solution can be found the matter will be referred back to a special meeting or its next meeting in November for further consideration.
    Human or animal, it seems that nobody is immune from being screwed over by contractors!
    I wonder how one can:

    a. be passively negotiating

    b. continue to be in unconstructive negotiations

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    Re: Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    Easy, the MOD will move some squaddies in and the pooches out.
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    Dare i roll my eyes once more at the thought of another stunningly negotiated contract the MOD have with a private company. Oh how grateful i am for the money saved too the public purse by contractorisation.
    hols 4 heros money well spent

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    "We have, and continue to be, in constructive negotiations with Realm
    Perm any 2 from 4.

    1. They are still answering their phone to us.

    2.They are sticking to the letter of the contract and not budging but still talking to us to tell us that

    3. We have done the math, and we can afford the extra cash they're humping our leg for

    4. We are getting to a figure where we can pay them off without too much embarrassment.
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    Re: Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    Quote Originally Posted by Balleh
    Quote Originally Posted by asr1
    http://www.meltontimes.co.uk/news/DAC-kennels-refused-licence.4473259.jp

    DAC kennels refused licence

    Published Date: 09 September 2008
    By Michael Cooke
    WEDNESDAY 8AM: The Defence Animal Centre, which trains dogs for combat zones around the world, may face legal action over the state of its kennels.
    Melton Council's animal licensing officer found 'significant deterioration' in the dogs' accommodation and refused to issue an Animal Boarding Establishment licence saying urgent action was needed.

    The Ministry of Defence conceded that the kennels, in Welby Lane, Melton, needed to be replaced and said it was actively negotiating with the private company that manages them for this to be done.

    In a statment it said: "We are fully aware the kennels at the Defence Animal Centre require replacement. Realm (the company) currently manages all of the facilities at the centre, and we are working urgently with them to establish how and when a replacement plan is to be put in place.

    "At the same time, we are ensuring that the essential trained dog and handler output to the services continues to meet operational requirements.

    "We have, and continue to be, in constructive negotiations with Realm which has acknowledged its responsibility for the proper repair and replacement of the kennels."

    Melton Council's rural, economic and environmental affairs committee said it would defer a decision on whether or not to prosecute to give the two parties time to resolve the matter and it stressed that cleanliness at the centre was of a good standard.

    However, it warned that if no solution can be found the matter will be referred back to a special meeting or its next meeting in November for further consideration.
    Human or animal, it seems that nobody is immune from being screwed over by contractors!
    I wonder how one can:

    a. be passively negotiating

    b. continue to be in unconstructive negotiations
    Not married are you Balleh ?

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    Re: Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    Quote Originally Posted by Balleh
    I wonder how one can:
    a. be passively negotiating
    Not actually talking to one another, but trading 'status negotiations' (read: insults) through public rhetoric. See current US and Russia diplomatic relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balleh
    b. continue to be in unconstructive negotiations
    Showing up for 'negotiations' to please the watching media, but once the doors are closed, simply throwing insults or refusing to 'negotiate' honestly. See a long history of company v union talks during 1970s.
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    Re: Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    Quote Originally Posted by Balleh
    I wonder how one can:

    a. be passively negotiating

    b. continue to be in unconstructive negotiations


    Civil serpents and politicians do it frequently, it gives them a raison d'etre, longer jollies to expensive places, and gives the impression they are actually doing something.

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    Re: Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    Is there anything that this repellent government will NOT f*ck up?

    Maybe, this is the result of x million years of Tory misrule!

    PS. The licence involved is spelled, or maybe spelt: licence.

    PPS. I did not get my O2 badge for nothing.

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    Re: Defence Animal Centre refused kennels license

    Quote Originally Posted by sanchauk
    Quote Originally Posted by Balleh
    Quote Originally Posted by asr1
    http://www.meltontimes.co.uk/news/DAC-kennels-refused-licence.4473259.jp

    DAC kennels refused licence

    Published Date: 09 September 2008
    By Michael Cooke
    WEDNESDAY 8AM: The Defence Animal Centre, which trains dogs for combat zones around the world, may face legal action over the state of its kennels.
    Melton Council's animal licensing officer found 'significant deterioration' in the dogs' accommodation and refused to issue an Animal Boarding Establishment licence saying urgent action was needed.

    The Ministry of Defence conceded that the kennels, in Welby Lane, Melton, needed to be replaced and said it was actively negotiating with the private company that manages them for this to be done.

    In a statment it said: "We are fully aware the kennels at the Defence Animal Centre require replacement. Realm (the company) currently manages all of the facilities at the centre, and we are working urgently with them to establish how and when a replacement plan is to be put in place.

    "At the same time, we are ensuring that the essential trained dog and handler output to the services continues to meet operational requirements.

    "We have, and continue to be, in constructive negotiations with Realm which has acknowledged its responsibility for the proper repair and replacement of the kennels."

    Melton Council's rural, economic and environmental affairs committee said it would defer a decision on whether or not to prosecute to give the two parties time to resolve the matter and it stressed that cleanliness at the centre was of a good standard.

    However, it warned that if no solution can be found the matter will be referred back to a special meeting or its next meeting in November for further consideration.
    Human or animal, it seems that nobody is immune from being screwed over by contractors!
    I wonder how one can:

    a. be passively negotiating

    b. continue to be in unconstructive negotiations
    Not married are you Balleh ?
    I am and I take your point !

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    Its hardly surprising considering the amount of money that DAC wastes on buying rubbish dogs from Europe (3,500 Euros a pop) that go on to binned when at the same time trying to screw breeders oer in the UK by offering a quarter of the money for dogs that are much better. When the RAF are in charge of procurement, its OK. When the muppets from RAVC are running procurement it all goes to shit. You know who you are WOII dipstick

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpctc View Post
    Its hardly surprising considering the amount of money that DAC wastes on buying rubbish dogs from Europe (3,500 Euros a pop) that go on to binned when at the same time trying to screw breeders oer in the UK by offering a quarter of the money for dogs that are much better. When the RAF are in charge of procurement, its OK. When the muppets from RAVC are running procurement it all goes to shit. You know who you are WOII dipstick
    You waited 3 years to resurrect a 4 year old thread, nice one trigger


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    Quote Originally Posted by mpctc View Post
    Its hardly surprising considering the amount of money that DAC wastes on buying rubbish dogs from Europe (3,500 Euros a pop) that go on to binned when at the same time trying to screw breeders oer in the UK by offering a quarter of the money for dogs that are much better. When the RAF are in charge of procurement, its OK. When the muppets from RAVC are running procurement it all goes to shit. You know who you are WOII dipstick
    Are dogs not donated from the general public any longer?


    edited to add that I didn't realise that the crab handler above hadn't read the date. However, the question still stands; aren't dogs donated any longer?

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    A mate runs a kennels and the random inspections they carry out are ruthless, if you have a tiled floor in the kennels and they find any cracked then you have 24hrs to replace it or they will withhold the licence..... that just one example. The inspections can be really harsh, but it does give dog owners some reassurance when they want to leave little Rover at some kennels

    I know nothing of the current state of Melton, but it wasn't in the best nick some 8 years ago....

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